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AlumoAudio says

Hi Anthony, welcome aboard! :)

This question came up very recently here and I added a few of my own findings regarding promotion. Feel free to take a look and good luck! :)

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AlumoAudio says


Being outside of my typical genre, yet wanting to enter the contest, I sought out a preset (loop) library. Added more to it and (thought) I rearranged it. I obviously didn’t do enough like Alumo mentioned here earlier.
Oh dear, the curse of the dubstep-contest. You are granted absolution. This bloody dubstep-thing made a lot of us go crazy. :)

And the reviewers too, no doubt! :)

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AlumoAudio says

And 6 new ones from a VERY high profile company/sample developer in the last 12 hours…..

Yep, just got the email about that one in the last hour! Typical, or rather topical.

(Anyway Gareth, as a side note, don’t think I didn’t just notice your new badge! ;) Did I miss an announcement? You’ve messed up my Elite count now! Anyway huge congrats from me on that sir! )

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AlumoAudio says

It does seem as if I spoke to soon! I wasn’t aware of this kind of thing although I can’t see how it can be a tenable situation. I mean on the one hand we think fingerprinting is the way forward but with this kind of thing being (allowed??) it will render the system useless. Quite worrying really

I agree, which is exactly why it’s absolutely necessary for composers to not use construction kits verbatim, and submitting them to RF libraries. Although AJ already prohibit this practice, creative editing of these pre existing loops and samples to build an original production is fine.

Regarding library fingerprinting, one potential workaround is that RF libraries purchase these construction kits, and fingerprint the included ‘suggested end mix demo’ which they can store on their system, ready for any direct matches. Great in theory, and I’m sure it would catch a few out, but not sure how consistent it would be, as even a simple change of the mix could throw the fingerprint right off.

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AlumoAudio says

That is pretty unfortunate! I don’t know about these libraries but I imagine the chances of making something near identical is very slim, especially if you’re adding bespoke parts

Unfortunately, it’s actually not looking so slim these days (in the EDM category especially).

Just in the last year or so, I’ve seen a host of many new sample libraries popping up with aggressive marketing, offering very affordable royalty free sample packs and construction kits (lego style), promising to sound exactly like all the big names in the industry.

These also boast that they’re suitable for use in production music from the outset, without having to request a special license first. For some, I’m sure the temptation would be too much to resist, and it’s here we get our ‘sample collision’ problem within author submissions.

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AlumoAudio says

I don’t see how this is of any importance since both songs sold 0 times…

I’d say it was more a matter of principle and standards, regardless of sales counts.

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AlumoAudio says

I had a funny feeling you may have been referring to Dubstep tracks Phil!

I actually shared my thoughts on this phenomenon a while back in a similar thread here.

Personally, it’s something I definitely feel should be looked into by AJ and RF marketplaces in general. In larger, boutique libraries with a smaller composer pool, the use of prefab construction kit type sample libraries is considered a big no no.

Admittedly, I’ve even been caught out myself in the past with this. Coming from a predominantly dance music background (or EDM for you guys on the other side of the pond) over the years I’ve collected many volumes of these types of sample libraries. For RF music, I occasionally dip into them as a source of inspiration, as a ‘starting point’, to modify and build upon, and so on. It was only when I stumbled into a particular creation on here that had an almost identical opening and elements to one of my own tracks (albeit, in a different key) that I realised we’ve potentially got a problem on our hands.

I think your suggestion of AJ somehow utilising Soundizer, is perfect to remedy this, and would help out massively on the reviewing side of things. Sure, we can all keep a look out for track collisions, but could realistically only be performed on an arbitrary basis, which of course isn’t ideal.

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AlumoAudio says

Hey Matt, just wondering how this makes you think in terms of exclusivity? I often get frustrated and think it’s time to go all non-exclusive but when I read this I feel like I’m better off staying exclusive.

Very good question Steve! It’s something I’ve been contemplating for quite some time myself. I’ve mentioned this before, but compared to the vast majority of other RF marketplaces out there, AJ has always been pretty much consistent, and that’s despite the usual ups and downs we all come to expect with seasonal influences or backend changes. But choosing exclusive over non-ex is all down to an author’s personal circumstances at the end of the day, and ideally shouldn’t be based solely on whether things are going great on AJ or not.

The issue for myself was that the first year or so was great on these other marketplaces, with one or two heavily exceeding my AJ earnings. My portfolio was uploaded in bulk and therefore was simply riding on more visibility and exposure. It’s only in the last 6 months or so that I’m seeing a tremendous drop off of sales there, to the point where AJ is once again top of the pack, and consistently so. But of course I could now be taking advantage of that 50%+ exclusivity cut, to make up for the shortfall. I just need a few more months of figures to roll in before I can make any firm decisions.

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AlumoAudio says

it appears that the second part of July is going to be bad.

Yep, I’ve got that feeling too. Although saying that, my AJ sales are much, much better than anywhere else I sell on. Everywhere else is completely and utterly dead! :dead:

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AlumoAudio says

The week began disastrously. So far it had been a great month … but then … crash! :confusedsad:

You and me both Juan! Witnessed the same thing. One of the pitfalls of selling during the summer high-season I guess.

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