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AlumoAudio says

Two days – no sales. This is something new for me… :)

Yep, very quiet here too in the last day or so. Just a couple of referrals from my YouTube channel, but that’s about it. Easter break/holidays are almost certainly the cause however, as exactly the same thing happened around this time in the past couple of years.

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AlumoAudio says

You’ll probably want to look through this thread.

LOL @RoyaltyFreak! Both on it at once! ;)

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AlumoAudio says

No Soundizer does not store AJ previews. It contains calculated fingerprints only.

Thanks for responding Soundizer, that’s good to know. Cheers! :)

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AlumoAudio says

I presume you wouldnt just play all the previews. I assume that you have permission from Envato to fingerprint all their tracks?

Whilst we’re on the subject, Skyline touches on a point here that’s been in the back of my mind for quite some time, with respect to Soundizer’s system.

Now, not to question your setup too much here Soundizer, and it’s great to see your system working wonders in tracking down corresponding VideoHive projects to our music. For that we’re extremely thankful. But I’m curious to what is actually happening to our preview files off AJ (or any other site for that matter)?

Are you actually physically storing these preview files on your own servers, or just storing some sort of reference fingerprint data of these? If it’s the former, I’m just a little concerned about our music being physically ‘hosted’ on servers somewhere, and on a mass scale. If so, I don’t seem to recall any legally binding agreement for this. (in the same way we agreed with AJ’s, etc, terms to allow the hosting of our files on their servers, during sign-up).

Not to put ideas in anyone’s head, but what concerns me here is having access to very large volumes of music files (watermarked or otherwise) and potentially being re-uploaded in a misguided way, such as to other monetized fingerprinting platforms.

Please note, that I’m not at all suggesting these are your intentions. But issues like this have happened in the past, where collated music has been submitted to these programs via another platform without the creator’s consent, causing all sorts of problems, especially with YouTube.

So please forgive me for raising a largely off-topic question here , but I do think it’s important for us to know some of these minor details.

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AlumoAudio says

One simple way this issue could be greatly minimized, would be to implement clearly visible notifications at some point during the upload process, to serve as a reminder to authors that any tracks uploaded to the Envato marketplaces in an exclusive capacity MUST remain as that, and NOT sold or licensed via other marketplaces.

I think one of the key problems here is that some authors (especially new authors) may miss the point of how exclusivity and non-exclusivity works, or are oblivious to the consequences of going against the rules, thinking they will just ‘blend in’ and that nobody will notice.

To me, drilling it home from the outset seems like a good start.

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AlumoAudio says

I always assumed it was down to accounts that have either been deleted or disabled, for whatever reason. I’ve had days when I notice my follower count drops by up to 5 in one day, for no apparent reason.

What really gets on my goat however, is when I see my follower count drop then suddenly rise in a matter of minutes, only to realise it’s authors doing that follow-unfollow-follow routine, in some kind of half arsed attempt at getting more exposure, and vampiring off the back of someone else’s success.

For that reason alone, I think the whole ‘follower’ feature needs to be reassessed.

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AlumoAudio says

On reading your thoughts here Ralf, I can only fully agree and relate to how you’re feeling about this. In fact, we don’t have to look very far in this very community to see authors that are engaging in this and shamelessly contravening Envato’s terms, with respect to exclusivity.

You’ve obviously been in this business much longer than I or most other marketplace non-exclusives have, and only recently my own attention has been brought to this particular ‘dark side’ activity of music licensing.

What concerns me most however is that we non-exclusives (sometimes I get the feeling we’re a sort of rogue sub-community which shouldn’t really be participating in Envato forum discussions), have to be responsible for the policing and reporting of this. It puts us in a very tight and difficult situation indeed, which of course is not our job.

AJ isn’t the only marketplace where this is happening however. I’ve seen it on others too, and it’s beginning to look like a real problem. As you suggested, not only does it highlight an author’s integrity, but also completely demotivates fellow authors who are playing by the rules, especially when they’re clearly being put at a disadvantage by this.

Libraries need to be aware however, that there are ways to deal with this phenomenon, other than depending solely on cases being manually reported. A number of libraries are now adopting fingerprinting and AudioID technologies as a way to monitor music held on their systems. This is something which Envato could certainly use to their advantage, and curb this problem before it gets totally out of control.

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AlumoAudio says


There are other sites out there that have no review system at all, and believe me, they are filled to the brim with unusable, ‘musical’ junk, by so called ‘professional composers’.
That´s just so mean Matt, I´ve worked hard for those tunes. That was totally uncalled for!

Well, you know, someone had to say it! ;)

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AlumoAudio says

To be honest i dont think this is a good idea at all! :)

+1 In complete agreement with Pavel and others on this one. The day AJ adopt an ‘audition’ based review system, which is what the OP is suggesting, is the day I leave AudioJungle.

There are other sites out there that have no review system at all, and believe me, they are filled to the brim with unusable, ‘musical’ junk, by so called ‘professional composers’. So much so, I’ve actually had to remove my portfolio from these places as to avoid association.

AJ are doing a superb job here, by constantly raising the bar in submission quality. Definitely progress from a couple of years ago. Sure, there are occasional hit and misses along the way, which is inevitable, but in general I think most authors here rightly prefer this method of vetting.

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AlumoAudio says

Seriously speaking, this is all very odd… I wonder what’s behind such a drop in sales..

Personally, I think it’s a few compounded reasons why we’re seeing a sudden shut down of sales. Easter Holidays, Heartbleed (servers being addressed worldwide), internal marketplace search changes/development, daily Google algorithmic changes, the list goes on.

There is something comforting knowing we’re all going through this at once though! Ryan’s got the right idea. I think we should all go fishing and not worry about it! :)

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