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AlumoAudio says

HAHA, just for fun !

LOL! Well, if it’s any consolation Daniel… ;)

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AlumoAudio says

Really interesting thread! Something I’ve often thought about, especially considering UK is another expensive (and arguably over priced) place to reside, compared to many other European counties.

According to this eye opening website, apparently, for me at least:

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(And Cardiff is considered a relatively low priced city here in the UK!)

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Very confusing … why would Envato favor the non-ex? Hopefully there will be some clarification upon this issue.

Favor? The standard non-ex rate in the industry is 50%!

33, 36, 39 or whatever is VERY low…

Yep, and don’t I know it.

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Friends, I don’t know if I can continue to be a part of a model that demands so much of it’s authors, exploiting their work to the highest degree – TV commercials, Major Motion Pictures, Hit Television Series, Internationally famous sporting events, barring performance royalties; all while offering (keeping the above in mind) by comparison; little in return.

This is why I earlier suggested an ‘opt in/out’ option for broadcast when uploading. At least authors would have the choice if they want to contribute to this madness. It wouldn’t be hard to implement and at these rates I for one would opt out.

Perhaps its a rubbish idea, perhaps I’m 4 sales away from being taken seriously. Would be nice for some feedback though.

You’ve got to be in the top 5 to be taken seriously around here mate! Just kidding of course ;)

Seriously though, I personally think your idea is well worth the consideration in all of this and at least gives authors that flexibility. Bare in mind, it still only addresses half the problem however, and that other half being the PRO issue. That’s a real thorn in my side right now, and something that should also be looked into.

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AlumoAudio says

Thanks for responding to this Eric, it’s most appreciated. Whilst digesting your reply here, I completely see why Envato would arrive at those price points for the very reasons you outlined. My initial reaction was more fuelled by the fact that PRO registered music cannot be uploaded here, which in my mind would serve as at least a ‘behind the scenes’ benefit, especially as our music is available here at these value orientated based rates.

Having said that, and given my recent discussions with my now ex-PRO, PRS UK (with them point blank refusing the removal of individual RF tracks and insisting on the termination of my entire account), it’s becoming pretty evident where things are possibly headed here on an industry level.

Unfortunately (and despite what Tim mentioned about licensing model coexistence), this experience has already showed signs that both licensing models (RF and traditional) are resistive of each other, unwilling to cooperate and already failing to co-exist at ground level.

This is why I also feel that the upper tier rates need another look over here. Maybe emphasising and marketing higher rates as ‘premium’ would at least help differentiate them from the more vanilla ‘value’ rates, yet still attracting the sort of buyer that can still easily budget for such usages.

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AlumoAudio says


these prices are not fair to authors vs the type of use.
Glad I wasn’t the only one thinking this!

And I’m afraid there’s another over here.

Despite being incredibly happy that things are finally progressing with licensing options, those upper tier rates have got to increase, with the aim to fall in line with industry expectations.

This should be reinforced by the fact we’re currently unable to benefit from PRO registered works here, so absolutely more the reason to revisit those prices.

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AlumoAudio says

Maybe you are confusing This with This ?

Hmm, possibly. But I only ever click the ‘Popular Files’ link via the ‘All Items’ tab. Maybe I was being a butterfingers in my frustration. Who knows. Either way, I can barely look at the popular items list right now. Makes me lose my equanimity.

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Well, I don’t know what’s going on now. Last night I noticed that one of the offending articles had been removed from the popular files page (and so they should be), and my item was moved back up to the second row. Offending items are now back on the list and my item moved back down to the third row. Talk about adding fire to Commissiongate. (thanks for coining that term Graham :) )
Are you sure man? Im still seeing your item on the 2nd row! :)

Nope, still on the 3rd row here. Now that’s just weird.

EDIT: Just completed a full cache reset on different browsers and still the same. I’m guessing this is server side. So I guess this suggests different people around the world see a completely different popular items list. Interesting.

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AlumoAudio says

Well, I don’t know what’s going on now. Last night I noticed that one of the offending articles had been removed from the popular files page (and so they should be), and my item was moved back up to the second row.

Offending items are now back on the list and my item moved back down to the third row. Talk about adding fire to Commissiongate. (thanks for coining that term Graham :) )

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AlumoAudio says

Incredible find Sasch! Consider it bookmarked! :)

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