I am trying to find words for the reason of my anger:
Evato scrapes in Millions of bucks, they can truly afford to give something back to the community, and new-comers to the market place. I remember when I first came to Graphic River, I though I could never be able to be a part of this marketpalce, I was waiting for the first day of the month to be the first to see what new “free item of the month” awaited me. When I found out about the Bundles, my heart raced and my hand became sweaty as I clicked the “buy button”.
Envato was a GOLD MINE!!!
I joined, took the tests, submitted my first item and 50% seemed like 100 times more than what I deserve.
Jumping to today, I could hardly care about the “free file of the month” as I already expect it to be something quite useless. I remember downloading a theme which was so badly designed it should never have been accepted.
I once applied for the free file of the month, and was told that there is no place to make a submission, It’s all up to some 1 person choosing the file.
What am I getting to?
Their Freebies, and Bundles represent how generous Envato is. And when they put out freebies that they know no-one will buy anyway, to me that is Cheap! Specially when I know for a fact that there are people willing to sacrifice their best item for that position.
That is why I feel Upset about this bundle, for the amount of cheap junk that is there. A few gold pieces surrounded by junk.
I can appriciate value, whether I am interested in an item or not.
but tell me please who the hell buying this bundle is going to use a “Metro Map” or have a rusty old steak house flyer, or use afterefects lines that look like they came from the 90’s or some guy pointing at a chart with his pen at what looks to be an extinct type of IBM, or use a video of a photographer taking photos, and cycling his cam for half a minute, and didn’t just about every photographer experiment with ink in water when they first started out? ... I could go on, but it’s pointless…
My argument continues, that believe it or not, there are people who do not look out for trends, and take envato’s word as gold. And they are being mislead and misinformed.
Trends is not an “opinion” as many might think, FLAT did not star out as some designer mocking about, It was an attempt to re-design the web from scratch, to give it a foundation in vector graphics and .svg’s (which load fast). What we had previously of vectors, was realistic outlines and stuff which GoMedia made, we needed simplification, hence the birth of flat, brought in and supported by giants like google.
The colors are not mistake either, pantone brings out a color every year.
- Point is that these trends are not just predictions they are plans, and are important for the development of our design, our interwebs – to be on top of trends, you must grip your seat and constantly look at what’s new – and when Envato waltz out and makes some forum, asks a dozen of their workers and based on that brings out a bundle, and calls it “Trends”. It’s just misleading!
Envato has Power in their field, Lot’s of it!! (just like pantone has power over color) and Envato should set STANDARDS! with the amount of files they have got to play around with, they can really whiz something up, which will be amazing!
I’m not saying Envato is Crap, no, I’m saying that they can do SO much better! and it it expected from them.
Personally I think all the items in the current bundle are great and worthy of inclusion.
I think you are being too kind.
I have come to realise that pretty much any item has a buyer somewhere, this does not mean that the item is current, neatly designed or “trendy”.
Every Single Item on envato is worth to be included in some bundle as they are all screened and approved by an envato member.
Sticking with the “Steak House Flyer” having a long hard look, can you really say that the Item has anything to do with trend? It has been designed in the design style of about 5 years ago, I have a DeviantArt profile full of grungy stuff like that from when i was young-er.
It’s a good design but it’s old, I don’t mean grungy, just old fashioned, not current, not Trendy.
I guess I’m getting angry with Envato, It used to be fresh and hip, now it’s becoming corporate, but loosing it’s coolness, or maybe It’s loosing it’s touch because they have such a large market share and don’t really care anymore.
Gewora saidThanks, I think I get it now.
The extended license does NOT allow you to use the item for multiple installations. And this is what the buyer needed.
So to be clear, your buyer could of bought an extended licence, package it with his theme, and then use his theme 4500 times and it would be completely in line with the extended licence?
It’s great to recognize new talent, but lots of authors have made much larger contributions to the marketplaces and have never had a “piece of the pie” yet.
I agree with you.
There are Items in this bundle that have almost no sales prior to this bundle, like the “Steakhouse Flyer” has 14 sales, and has been up since July – it is obvious that that flyer didn’t go down well with the public. but yet it is included in the bundle.
I think some people are mistaken the fact that this IS a bundle and it DOES cost $20 for $500 worth. That alone will drive sales, as it will be more profitable to buy the bundle than to buy a single item. Like for example the “Kozyon’s Infographic” worth $45, which I think is a decent addition to the bundle.
My concern is not that the bundle is selling well or not – people buy it on automatic, You will see 1000’s of sales just because it’s a bundle. Sales rely not only on the content of the bundle but also heavily on the marketing.
My concern, (albeit subjective) is this bundle’s name “Trends” and the content do NOT match.
An example of someone who does follow the trends (in web design) can be found by signing up to the newsletter of www.ewebdesign.com The reason for the example is: when you see someone who spends enough time to figure out trends, and then compare to this bundle – the feeling of this is of the “trends bundle” is: disappointment.
Gewora saidThanks for clarifying that Gewora, but still same question though. – I am interested to know what is it one can do with a single licence which can not be done with an extended licence.
There is no developer license. Unfortunately. Do not confuse it with the extended license.
1. Congrats 2. What Benefit did the buyer get by buying single licences instead of a developers licence?
Envato has a lot of power on the market, enough power to even influence certain trends to a degree. When something new and fresh comes out on Envato, people soon catch on, some of the most progressive items have been seen here first.
But… when it comes to actual Envato Picks, I often scratch my head in amazement, and ask myself WHY?!
I find it very hard to understand the logic by what Envato picks its free files of the month, and how it compiles bundles. The “Trends Bundle” IS NOT TRENDY! We all know that Pantone has made it’s color “Radiant Orchid” and that “Flat” is still in for another year. But how is the rest compiled? What’s up with the fashion video clip or the code canyon item, the football player image or the strange Metro map? Long Shadows are outdated, whiteboard explainers are getting old, The Vintage Logo thing is on the verge of falling off popularity.
There is nothing Trendy about this Bundle… It was compiled by someone who either has not a clue on what is trending, or simply by some commercial value which is unknown to me, or was just picked at random.
Wouldn’t it be great if buying a bundle would give you the possibility to somehow use all the items together to create something awesome out of it? Kind of like buying a toolset.
Once I used to wait for Bundles, because they had tools that I could work with, now its just a bunch of random mess, which takes more time to organise than to actually use.