Themes should not be underpriced just because monster themes are priced as they are. Item pricing is barely fair as it is, so it makes absolutely no sense to reduce the price just to account for the new monster themes.
Clever marketing? C’mon you gotta be kidding me. This is a good marketing move, I’ll give you that. A Marketing Masterpiece. But it is clever in the sense of screwing up the other themes because they can’t compete with 3 themes in 1 + 5 premium plugins + 50 homepages.
This is not competition, its smashing the little ones. I think monster themes should be categorized as bundles, separate from normal themes, and also priced a bit higher due to all of the stuff included in them. Also, if it’s such a big theme it could also be sold on its own website and create a business around it.
Picture this scenario: You have 10 cars for sale, out of those you got consumer level cars from normal brands, then you have 1 Bugatti for the same price as the others. The rest is left to your imagination…
Long story short, this is unsustainable competition.
How can you expect a new author to be motivated to start on the marketplace: “Ok, so if I want to sell my theme to sell I gotta…. Nah I’ll just do freelance or get a job.”
If this does not stop, the marketplace will end up like the app stores, where 2% of the developers take 98% of the profits. To envato this makes absolutely no difference, yet to authors it is devastating, specially those working hard to make a living selling items on the marketplaces.
Instalaste el Zip que descargaste de ThemeForest. Ese no es el Zip que tienes que instalar.
Extrae los contenidos del Zip y dentro encontrarás el Zip del theme que tienes que instalar.
Have you seen that latest theme? It has 50+ demos. What the heck? Seriously guys, its out of hand. This has to be regulated.
It’s hard to compete against 54+ theme demos. I tried to compete and been working on my upcoming theme for almost a year. For you authors out there, please don’t try to compete against these, just keep it simple and try to make honest earnings without burning yourselves out (learned it the very very hard way).
I believe envato should focus on the quality of the themes, instead of the insane amount of demo pages. There are people here that are one-man teams, and this makes very hard to compete against people doing that kind of themes.
It’s not that making complete and fully featured products is bad. There is a tremendous amount of effort and resources involved on making a huge live preview with tons of pages, but it is insane. If need be, just let those “monster” themes compete against themselves, yet leave the marketplace have fair competition amongst authors.
I also think this is not good for neither authors or buyers, because authors are now working their *ss off trying to add features to compete against such themes, and buyers are expecting some things from themes as if they were standard.
This also affects previous themes that were created a year ago. It is very likely that your themes created a year ago will not sell anymore, sales are decreasing because it’s hard for such themes to compete against the newer themes being sold on the marketplace.
If this does not stop, many authors will try to find other ways to make a living, because this is becoming unsustainable for independent (e.g. not part of a team) theme authors.
Just adding my 2 cents that the sorting issue needs to be fixed. It’s really stupid to have to click on page 1 of the navigation. Still, why would I be interested on a comment posted 2 years ago ?
The feature on itself is awesome, a very good addition/improvement. Adding to what Koev said, it’s good that you do some testing with a real author that actually uses the marketplaces. If you do, then fine. I volunteer to provide feedback if deemed necessary.
The perspective is very very different when you build software for other people to use. The real ones that should be providing feedback should be the end users, not the designers & developers in charge of designing & building the product, respectively.
It is really annoying when you see software updates that go backwards, instead of forward.
Looking forward to the sorting fix!
I’m looking for Web Designers to provide design work for my upcoming WordPress themes.
If you have a clean, modern and elegant web design style, please contact me via my profile page or my website, and please include any work samples. It would be great (but not required) if you already have a PSD design approved here on ThemeForest.
If possible, please include an estimate on how much you would charge.
Looking forward to working with you
Imagine one plugin per theme. Multiply that with multiple themes. A customer may have unused plugins hanging around if she has multiple themes installed and/or uninstalled. This creates extra issues for support, as some users are not used to the theme-with-plugin paradigm.
Additional issues arise when you update the shortcodes in the plugin. “Dear user, just update the plugin and not the theme”. Awesome.
As per the new requirements overall, I think this is a both a good thing and a bad thing, which on the long run may transform ThemeForest into a different marketplace than the one we have been used to.
Some users purchase a theme full of features. Then they don’t read the manual, try to do things on their own with their very limited experience related to the theme. This totally OK, this is why we authors write manuals, record screencast videos and provide support.
Then, things don’t go as they expect and start trashing the theme publicly on the theme’s comments. Things like: “This thing doesn’t work”, “The theme is very confusing”, “I want my money back”, etc.
As @digitalscience said, try to keep calm and provide a polite answer. Also, a user may have an opinion, but it is not a fact just because 1 person in a thousand complains.
In business there will always be people complaining, and not satisfied with what they get. We humans always want more. We (specially authors that do all the design & coding) work very hard to bring a feature complete theme to the masses. It usually takes months to get a theme ready for prime time.
Defend your theme and let other potential buyers reading the comments know, that your theme has no problems and that it has been tested. Otherwise, it wouldn’t have been approved in the first place. Do not, under any circumstance use bold or all caps in your reply, keep it smooth. Also, don’t apologize if you don’t have to. Additionally, don’t fear buyers just because they can rate your item.
If you are new to the marketplace (and theme development) then this is a bit different. When I got started a few years back, there were lots and lots of bugs in my first theme and things were improving with time. This may get a few people pissed off, which is normal. Just be polite, apologize for the inconvenience and fix the bugs as soon as you can. The bigger your user base, the more stable are your themes (or framework) since they have been tested in multiple server environments and configurations.
Keep it cool, be polite, defend your product, and don’t let a bored and frustrated person ruin your day.
Hey guys, glad you like it. I’m currently using the script in my themes and so far it’s been very smooth. If I find an issue I’ll update the code immediately, so you guys can also have the fixes. It’s intended to be a collaborative thing. If you find an issue, feel free to send a pull request on Github.
@MDNW Brandon, thanks for the thumbs up! I haven’t used that plugin before but it seems nice. I’ll try it out later on and see how it goes…