We purchased “Licence” on AudioJungle music. Now, YouTube warnings have occurred on use of those tracks. They are used within the acceptable use policy on positive, free to view projects. Will VideoHive “Licence” purchases attract YouTube flagging on free to view projects also?
Sorry to hear about your bad experience with YouTube.
Thank you Mihai – You’re the one of the best kept secrets on AudioJungle. It’s a shame your music is not the top feature each month since it’s excellent and so thoughtful. You’re one of few that can do so many styles, yet do all of them beautifully.
The issue is this: AudioJungle has had the benefit of referrals from us (and others). We have contributed to the exponential growth of the Envato and its places online. The organization is large enough, with enough influence to have the ability to stop this kind of bullying before it happens. Yes, there are a few ways to stop this in advance.
Because of these YouTube warnings, we are deeply concerned for all customers that have purchased any ‘licence’ on any Envato product that may be legally utilized in YouTube. We are concerned for all talented individuals posting their art within the Envato places due to the shocking news this morning. If the “Licence” on any AudioJungle music track is not honored, then it would be difficult to justify “Licence” purchase through AudioJungle/Envato.
YouTube has flagged our videos for use of music we have purchased “LICENCE” to which through AudioJungle we have used within the “LICENCE” terms. Our teams have worked to give the Envato sites referrals outside of any affiliate or partnership program for years because we believe in promoting talented artists. Now YouTube warns us about the use of AudioJungle music on non-commercial motivational, positive videos we created. We’ve been bullied in YouTube in the past on other very successful YouTube channels. This is shocking. Envato/AudioJungle has the ability to stop this now.
One of our YouTube channels is utilizing music from AudioJungle which I have purchased the rights to use.
Now YOU are causing YouTube to ask for license, artist name, track name, proof etc of our right to use the music.
We lost another YouTube channel (that was receiving millions of views per month) because of a bully.
Scott: Is this the way AudioJungle does business?
sambotta saidGreat post. Seems like there should be a better system when it comes down to matching creative people with other creative people to work on tv and film projects, but alas, it’s just about building a name for yourself and getting your work out there, and on the other side, it can be the endless search for who or what sounds right at the right price. It seems a little bit like the Wild West out there; if you want to be successful you really have to work for it.
To ScottWills: GREAT LIST !
We’ve spent a lot on this site via other accounts which do not include my personal name.
Since I’m a potential customer you if you found the question, I’ll type some random thoughts quickly since I need to swim laps before the swimming pool closes.
First, this series of websites is simply the classiest and best place to find some of the best work in the world. We spend a lot of time searching. So, for starters, Scott is correct: VIDEOHIVE loses opportunity because the artists, even some of the best ones, did not have an agreement with you… so watching their samples is either silent (like a movie with no score), or worse, it needed music by YOU with your talent to make their art have more ‘feeling’ to it.
I get it because music and art live inside of me, so I focus on what I do in “Hollywood” and I want to hire the best talented individuals in the world to do what we know will reach the viewer, the listener – the person that you are writing your music, doing your art for. Reaching her through sound, sight… it’s my job. So I hope this helps.
As someone that has bought a lot from this site with other accounts for what we are working on, it would help you if search was not based on factors that keep people like us from finding what we need. The best will rise to the top, but only if I have the time to search through a lot more tracks than what comes to the first few pages sorted by ‘ratings’ or ‘sales’ ... this is not your fault, and I do not know how to engineer the searches to make finding the right track easier (without listening all night to clips). It’s also an issue to have to click the play button on each one. It would be easier to simply hover over it to hear it. Further, it’s not fair to you that a track may be drastically different at the beginning (where each begins) than in the middle. That said, I need to be able to give someone the opportunity to score two documentaries and a show. It might be a near perfect mix since we do not have the budget to purchase full rights to a lot of tracks, but we have the ability to help the right person(s) get noticed.
So, it I were in your shoes wanting people like me to spend money on music, I would do this:
I’d find someone like me that needs to utilize music for content I post (rough, reduced quality video cuts) that happen to be working on other projects that need music. Radio shows, television shows and documentaries need music because music affects human emotions.
There are a lot of people like me… working quickly to complete documentaries and a tv show without the budgets of the major studios, but with a wee bit of influence which makes it possible for us to, say, add your name to credits of videos, movies and tv shows. When we’re able to purchase rights to showcase your talent with our work that draws a nice-sized audience, it can create a certain amount of fame for you, your talent and might even have a side benefit of being noticed by decision makers we work with in the industry.
I understand… you’re not doing this for the fame of it, or the money of it… but then again that fame and money would make creating stadium-sized concert events with audiences that found you – well it’s more possible. And if you don’t want money once you make it as far as you have dreamt of going, you can give 100% of it away to those you say you wish to help. In my work, I have learned a lot from those that have worked in their art and officially reached ‘the dream’ ... and they have something in common, they give and give and give.
So if i were trying to market my music, I would find people like me, and agree to create something that’s like what’s needed for this or that project at a rate so low that its uncomfortable. In this way, you’re being challenged to do your dream work… your best work while getting something that can be worth more than those super costly marketing people in the entertainment and music business.
It really doesn’t hurt to have your name and music credited on YouTube, and what if it is in a movie or documentary, even most film festival movies list credits which are searchable on IMDb, and sites like that (and having your name in the end credits on screen at a movie) ... these are powerful tools that help build fame (and sales).
When in doubt, remember that Mark Petrie is like the rest of us, well except the world has been exposed to him through Spiderman this year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3h-gWBArIs Great guy normal person, and he still has royalty-free tracks for sale.
Marketing the person(s) with the right kind of sound… we can do as we build what’s coming, and when projects are released, it becomes more fun. If interested, let me know what your dreams are. I noticed a message on here from Rodrigo Noales. Amazing talent! There’s a whole list I could add here, but I’ll make comments eventually on your profiles since your talent deserves the credit.Sam
A lot of people are working for it, they’ve paid their dues, but there’s something more. You’ve composed a lot of music, master works in a large variety of styles. You’ve chosen to live in California which gives you access to meeting with people that have some influence in music, television, film etc. So it’s more than work, it’s access and other factors. I know too many people living outside of Los Angeles that want to be an Actor, but they are not near “Hollywood” or “Bollywood” or any other worldwide center of entertainment.
What I see people do though is complain about the popular music without realizing why it’s popular. Before Ryan Seacrest Productions had the kind of influence it now does in popular music, the number of listeners per top five song were low. Sure, a ‘hit’ song has a short life span on the radio, but when music videos for songs (combining the Vevo channels with listener-made lyric videos, etc) have more than one Billion views, or 1,000,000,000 views, there’s something to be said for that. I’m not going to mention anything about revenue of ‘popular music’ since that’s a discussion I’m not willing to get into. The reasons a song becomes popular – this is another discussion I’ll avoid – but I’ll repeat this: These songs, through telling stories… through the use of SOUND technology, through creating brands, they create emotional connection with the listener.
For some reason, people feel they identify with famous names more than with their own family member. So, beyond the talent and hard work and _, , and ___, it’s about having a story to tell and knowing how the ones that are ‘the most successful’ by the standards of success in your mind … know how they got there since they’ve mapped out the paths.
adammonroe saidFrom the radio perspective, when a song is played repeatedly, it becomes more popular. Personalities we’ve hired have become quite tired of a lot of songs, however, their job is to communicate, for instance, with listeners, getting comments, etc… so we wonder why they are listening to whole songs while working on-air anyway instead of recording phone calls with listeners that are ‘fans’ of the music and the show.
You know what, I think that before style, it cames the PIECE . I mean, when you listen to a beautiful track, or, when a track is a world successful song, then it cames its style. Take Gotye song “Somebody That I Used to Know”: the SONG is beautiful, but, which style is? So everybody starts producing song with that instruments, and it’s wrong to me! So there’s no style nowadays and in the future, there’s only the beauty of songs
You know, I’ve often wondered if that song would have gotten so big if it had been released in a different time period, say the mid-90’s. Not to take anything away from that song, but I think the mainstream public is so starved right now for ANY half-way decent music to come onto the radio that they desperately latch onto it when it happens, which these days is rarely.For proof, I site the Billboard top 100. Never the greatest music there, but it seems like an especially depressing parade of garbage these days. Or maybe I’m just getting too old.
Also take into account the lyrics of that Gotye song. The song has a ‘real’ story behind it, it’s a composite of stories about one person and the relationships he says he had. Famous people, admit this or not, talk about the song or the person singing or playing it, and then people decide to like it. I didn’t make the rules of current human nature, and most of the time I think that the rules cannot be real, but then, people become more dedicated to habits they’re unaware they have in life. Perhaps this is why non-creative persons are able to sit in a cubicle doing repetitive tasks that are great for their intelligent mind, but would bore me into crying.
It’s like those couples that are married, seemingly in bliss, for 70 years. What’s the secret? They say they ‘choose to love each other, no matter what, every day’... it’s like that with a lot of the songs today. Repetition = habits form. Personally, I lost 80 lbs in six months through new habits which I didn’t like at first. You know, it seems crazy eating a sandwich without the bread. Then, it becomes a habit, and you want to warn others that are eating bread that it may be part of the reason they’re obese. It’s the same with a lot of music. People are not that into a song at first sometimes, but they keep hearing it, hearing about the one singing, playing or _ it and then they accept it. Repetition breeds trust.
I think Brian Eno once said something along the lines that modern music is an open sand box. You can compose with virtually any number of sounds you want – any palette. I think when people have to work within a certain set of conventions, they have to be more innovative. This is the double-edged sword of modern music. Popular music is becoming more and more concerned with rhythm and tone. Instead of traditional things like melody and harmony, the focus is on how cool my synth sounds, and how boogy my beat is. I see THAT particular trend continuing. Five years from now, I believe rap/hip hop, country, pop, and electronic/syth based pop will still be tremendously popular. Dubstep will be dead, as all trends become popular and die, especially those movements that depend on youth culture, because young people get older and even younger people replace them and start to consume what they think is cool.
Popular music is more effective than ever in known recorded history at connecting with the sensory perception inside of a larger audience of people than ever in recorded history… It’s like the cars of 25 years ago… with extra pieces of metal and plastic on the side to cover up lines or even for additional ‘decoration’ ... most of that was replaced with more smooth lines and curves which appear to look more like the ‘perfect human body’ ... the technology has existed for a long time, but the changes were held back.
Now – when thinking of what will be popular in music – plan on more sound that’s been adjusted by new technologies that affects all senses of the human body. Think of the music of Flo-Rida right now and pull up the instrumental to “Wide Awake” by Katy Perry. A lot of talented people will say “I would never create something like that, the instruments are not real, and it’s so mainstream!” These are the same people that do not understand that the mainstream stuff can earn them money so they can have ‘time freedom’ to create music they want to create. As I’ve stated, there is a huge customer base for music like what is found in AudioJungle. The mainstream sound is popular, and this helps them sell their movies and shows.
Some genres might become marginally popular every now and then but the one which will always prevail is definitely pop. Chords and song structures will remain basically the same, but rhythm patterns and the use of rhythm instruments will be different.
When someone invents an unusual but pleasant rhythm pattern with an unusual mix of instruments, everybody start to use it and it then becomes the new pop music. Chords and melodies generally stay the same in popular music because regular people don’t like complex musical structures.So, focusing on creating innovative drum lines might be a good idea. Don’t forget, best way to predict the future is to create it
You are correct. Some people would say that pop music is popular because people are _ (fill in the blank). The truth is this: It’s popular because of the emotional connection it makes through sound. This has become a combination of many factors like psychology, technology, science (it’s deeper than these) and the will of they that are like you – intuitive, intelligent, talented…
We see too many people that go through life and leave with their ‘music’ still in them. Creating the future is my specialty because I want my life to matter. That music can change the world. That’s why I focus on mastery of uncommon habits that make it possible to emotionally connect with the person experiencing our work. There are specific positive life outcomes that can occur for each person that is affected by the content we create. This can affect the course of human events with new hope both now and in all future generations. I want the world to be a better place because I have lived in it, and I surround myself with people that do the same.
I’ll be honest, those are pretty amazing… especially given that they were made in the nineties. In terms of re-creating sounds with careful work I think the drums aren’t too hard.. you’d need an experienced percussionist though and you’d need to mic them really well. Nowadays some ethnic instrument samples are really good and they’re panned and balanced nicely but they still need some tweaking here and there to make them sound that little bit more realistic. The other stuff just wouldn’t be easy at all given the known difficulty of finding good players of ethnic instruments. You can work with samples and some are really good nowadays but to my ear the erhu, kalimba etc used in that track were all real… But in terms of purely re-creating it I don’t think any of it is “easy”....
Great point. And yes, 1990s, it was unusually good for then and at the low lease prices then. The first 15 seconds, and then from :23 to :28 – We need similar to those. Imagine that there’s a couple at a modern restaurant that has a ceiling, but the couple is seated at a table next to the beach, the sun is about to set, a gentle breeze is intentionally slightly audible and the two, on their third date are in dialogue, smiling… When a composer has mastered talent, samples can work just fine because of the other sounds – the music is that thing that a lot of people would not think about, but you and I know that it’s the foundation of emotionally connecting with the one watching.
So in short, more motion graphics. Make suggestions. I’m sure there’ll be a ton of authors jumping on your every word. The downside to pre-rendered motion graphic elements of course is that they can’t be customized with new text content etc. At the moment, there is no simpler or more mainstream alternative to After Effects for this.
@felt_tips You’re correct, and I know that it’s not the fault of any talented After Effects Artist on here that the world has not yet converted to Apple Motion or an even simpler system that anyone can edit. The new MacBook Pro I’m typing into is capable of automating a lot of the tasks within After Effects, but I also understand that Artists deserve to be paid high hourly rates for the thousands of tweaks. The problem is that the audience has suddenly expanded, a lot of these buyers that ‘would be’ would be able to spend on full licenses of royalty-free work if not limited by the Engineer’s dream AE. There is so much science and technology created by Engineers. We appreciate them very much. The problem: AE Engineers do not report to someone like Jonathan Ive.
Let’s try to find a solution to this.