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AlumoAudio says


Aren’t the new VAT laws only based on UK? So it only affects you if your business is based in the UK?
They’re in the entire EU, are they not??

The changes are actually global and not just limited to the EU. Even the US is subject to the changes, and have actually been subjected to similar rulings since 2003!

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AlumoAudio says


Aren’t the new VAT laws only based on UK? So it only affects you if your business is based in the UK?
Start a petition UK and Europe based owners!

We already have ;)

https://www.change.org/p/pierre-moscovici-a-unilateral-suspension-of-the-introduction-of-the-new-eu-vat-laws-for-micro-businesses-and-sole-traders
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AlumoAudio says

Another way to be notified of illegal distribution of our music online is to set up ‘as it happens’ notifications via Google Alerts. (I believe you’ll need a Google / Gmail account to take advantage of the service).

Here you can use certain keywords, such as your artist and song names, and as soon as these are crawled by Google, you’ll receive an email. For some of you here, be prepared for a shock. ;)

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AlumoAudio says

We certainly should be regularly creating and uploading new music, but maybe we should trying to stand out by being innovative too instead of copying tracks (all be it successful ones) which are getting a little long in the tooth?

They may well be getting a little long in the tooth for AJ authors looking at that top selling items list week in week out, but you have to remember that for many, many new customers it’s often the first time they’ve ever heard these tracks. A great track is a great track, however which way we cut it.

Alongside that, not all licenses are purchased via AJ’s search. Many authors here (myself included) also actively engage in external promotions to help drive new customers to these tracks. As a result, that music will invariably and consistently find themselves placed in the top selling items list.

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AlumoAudio says

We’ve been looking into things a bit ourselves, and we’ll keep monitoring how things unfold with YouTube. But things are still very much in the early stages and I imagine things will shift a lot with how YouTube and AdRev handle things in the upcoming year.

Thanks for the update Travis, most appreciated!

(See, I said they had their eye on developments! ;) )

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AlumoAudio says

Regardless of motivations of why this needs to happen, I think we can all agree that it must. Any thought on how we can lobby Envato?

Well, I’ve actually already had lengthy, direct discussions with key Envato staff about all of this, so they’re already very aware of the situation. The main thing for Envato is to open a dialogue directly with the ContentID Administration Team about this.

Systems like AdRev, Audiam, TuneCore, ONErpm, etc, are in fact YouTube Partners and only have so much administrative power over operations. It’s YouTube’s ContentID Administration Team that are at the top and set the state of play, of which these third party systems rely on. So Envato would most likely have to speak with all parties when figuring out a resolve, if any.

In the meantime, it’s down to us composers to deal with the leg work behind this until Envato issue any policies in the future. I’m certain they are indeed already keeping an eye on developments with all of this and following our discussions here, as this is all invaluable information for their business.

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AlumoAudio says

AlumoAudio, I want to say huge THANK YOU for all the information You gave us about AdRev. Now I understand that system more than it was some time ago.

But I still have one situation that I don’t understand.

Let’s say I am buyer and I own huge Youtube channel with thousands of subscribers and I purchased license to use one track from AJ. And this track is registered in AdRev system.

So I made my new video with this music in the background and it gets claimed automatically after I upload it on YouTube. Then I’m just sending message to AdRev that I have license and I want to delete this claim. AdRev does it quickly(lets say in 24 hours)

BUT my video had 100 000 views in these 24 hours when it was still claimed. What happens with these views? Music author and AdRev gets some $ of ads which was shown? Or what?

Hey Alex, this is one of the issues that’s recently come to light and another reason why AdRev registered composers must absolutely state on their items that their music is registered with AdRev and provide a link to have the claim removed immediately from their uploads BEFORE it goes live. This is the best thing we can do until AudioJungle, music libraries and ContentID systems streamline this whole process. Here’s an example:

“YouTube users: to clear any copyright claims on your videos (including monetized videos), simply visit this page, enter your details and video link and copy/paste the contents from your purchased License Certificate into the message box. Claims are removed within 24 – 96 hours and you’ll receive an email once this has been cleared. You may want to keep your uploaded video listed as ‘private’ until this has been completed. Thanks!”

@bdProductions:

I completely agree with you on what you’ve said and something I’ve been harking on about since we began discussing AdRev on these forums.

But one thing we need to get absolutely clear here is that it’s not a simple case of “customers don’t read the small print, therefore the customer is right”. The simple fact is, customers are purchasing licenses here. No small print should even be necessary to highlight the importance of that.

The problem is that customers assume that they are just purchasing music, quick and easy, no questions asked, end of story. Just like iTunes. I’m afraid that’s simply not the case. Envato sell and supply licenses to the items on the marketplace. It’s Envato’s responsibility to make this absolutely clear from the outset, and even more so now, with the advent of ContentID systems.

If it’s not AudioJungle items that are subject to all of this, it’ll be VideoHive items next. They also can track their footage via ContentID too. Envato (and all other RF sites for that matter) need to take heed and get into direct communications with YouTube/ContentID to sort this out, for all of our sakes.

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AlumoAudio says


I should get some of my own ‘customers’ to speak up on the forums, to explain how perfectly happy they are with my music and the simple AdRev process! ;)
Its not simple, when you make something for a client, It gets a copyright hit..and the client is now looking at me! Then I have to wait 96 hours for you to fix it…...Just not professional! Click on my name and you will see.. I purchase my music….I just wont purchase it from you.

That’s fine, I can live with that.

But I should point out you’re actually purchasing music licenses for using in exactly this scenario. For clearing copyright claims. This ideally should be done before your videos go live. Also, you can ask the AdRev composer to have your / your client’s channel whitelisted from receiving any further claims on their music on videos in the future.

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AlumoAudio says


If I don’t register my tracks with AdRev, ultimately someone else will – in their name.
To deal with this I’ve uploaded my tracks to my own YouTube channel so I would know if somebody else register them in a Content ID system :)

So you mean wait until a copyright claim appears on your videos? If so, yes that could work I suppose. But still a lot of hassle and then you have all the long winded red tape to go through to get it removed, etc.. All to appease a handful of entitled customers. I’ll take the hit thanks.

People seriously need to embrace this change and move with it, because unfortunately I’m beginning to detect a bit of a war breaking out between AdRev and non AdRev composers.

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AlumoAudio says

I should get some of my own ‘customers’ to speak up on the forums, to explain how perfectly happy they are with my music and the simple AdRev process! ;)

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