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AlumoAudio says

Finally my lazy ass become silver!

I will try to work harder in august.

Thanks for all!

Haha that made me chuckle!

Good work AP! Keep it up man! :)

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Well spotted, and one of the reasons I wanted the post removed, because I quickly realised after posting it that it could attract some questioning and possibly be open to misinterpretation, especially as it’s a particularly grey area when it comes to AJ’s terms. It could also be seen by those who could potentially abuse the system.

Thank you so much for this information and clarifications. Sorry if I put you on the spot, it wasn’t my intention of course.

This shows once more that the potential of this system depends greatly on how you approach it, and ultimately on how Envato approaches it.

I do think Envato needs to get down with the guys at AdRev and talk business, before they miss out on this amazing opportunity.

Thanks for the support guys, it’s most appreciated! :bashful:

I completely agree with you on this Pierre and something I’m particularly passionate about myself, as you can probably tell! The simple fact is YouTube is huge. It goes without saying, it’s a perfect platform for the use of royalty free music, it’s currently ranked the third largest website in the world, the second largest search engine on the web, and has very recently surpassed Facebook as the world’s largest social media site.

This in itself shows it’s an opportunity too good to miss and Envato absolutely must grab the bull by the horns here to put themselves in a good position with Google/YouTube going forward. If anything, to suggest they are willing to go along with Google’s ideals. Things are changing very quickly in this arena, and libraries have to be on the ball, as it were. We’re already seeing instances of Google ‘penalising’ sites that are resistive of Google’s interests (which I mentioned on this thread) and I’d hate to see Envato go the same way.

That being said, Envato have already showed forward thinking by making the bold move to allow their author’s music to be purchased for listening purposes only. Apart from giving us greater flexibility, it’s ultimately lining the pockets of some big third party players out on the internet, notably iTunes, Amazon and Spotify. Working with Google/YouTube/AdRev is no different really, and therefore the obvious next rung on the ladder.

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AlumoAudio says

Hello Matt,

I think I saw something yesterday in one of your posts (maybe the one you had flagged, as I couldn’t find it today) that struck me as odd.

In one of your screenshots, it looked like Youtube is offering adRev registered tracks as ad supported music to use in videos. Did I get that right?

If that is indeed the case, wouldn’t that be an issue for exclusive authors at AJ?

Hopefully, I read wrong, and there is no need for another headache. ;)

Well spotted, and one of the reasons I wanted the post removed, because I quickly realised after posting it that it could attract some questioning and possibly be open to misinterpretation, especially as it’s a particularly grey area when it comes to AJ’s terms. It could also be seen by those who could potentially abuse the system.

Technically, yes, any AdRev registered tracks can be consolidated down (or rather ‘manipulated’) to show up in the AudioSwap search facility, detailing tracks by author. But the most important fact here that the tracks are NOT being licensed or promoted on YouTube, but rather being ‘duplicated’ in order to generate advertising revenue. (bearing in mind that if a video has too few views, no revenue is generated for anyone). This keeps in line with the very way the AdRev works in the first place. A very thin line, but a line nonetheless.

Also, YouTube users who swap out their audio with music that appears in the search will still get advertising appear on their video. If they wish to have their videos monetized or have advertising removed, they’ll still need to seek to purchase a license, which most do. (win win situation, and potentially huge benefit to Envato).

I’ve already spoken with Envato about this in the past, and there currently isn’t any policy in place regarding this. Envato would need to approach AdRev on this and possibly suggest an opt-out clause to prevent exclusive authors from appearing within AudioSwap, should it be seen to tread too heavily into their terms. But as it stands, there doesn’t seem to be an issue here.

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AlumoAudio says

Just tried uploading it to Soundizer myself, but no joy. If it was originally from AudioJungle, looks like it’s no longer available here.

In the meantime, I’ve got a track here from my portfolio in a very similar vein. Maybe it could work! :)

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AlumoAudio says

So ive been uploading my tracks and every week im getting an email from Youtube that i can no longer monetize my videos ( of the track that i uploaded to adrev)..i linked my Youtube account already on AdRev and they still dont know its my own song…......so im going to dispute the claim..is this the normal way to do it?

You’re getting the email because you can’t monetize videos AND have third-party claimed content at the same time. So, firstly you can either dispute the claim yourself from within your YouTube Video Manager (you should be able to see that monetization is not active) and selecting the option that your video “contains only your original content”; in this case your music, and explaining in the explanation box. Check my screenshots below and the official YouTube help video here.

Or alternatively you can shoot an email over to support@adrev.net, asking them to ‘whitelist’ your channel from receiving claims every time you upload your music there, by providing them with a link to your channel. Usually gets done in a few hours or so.

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AlumoAudio says

If you’ve got dropbox, it’s easy to upload from there.

Yes, that’s another option, or directly via FTP.

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AlumoAudio says

Hmmm. A direct link to soundcloud sounds great, but I’m not thrilled with the idea of non-watermarked music in soundcloud. Wouldn’t I just be encouraging piracy?

Oh no, I mean upload the unwatermarked music directly to AdRev rather than connecting your account to SoundCloud. No SoundCloud involved in that process and you can continue to upload watermarked music there.

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AlumoAudio says

Flagged my previous post, as I have a feeling some of my information was slightly incorrect. Here’s my edited post anyway.

liambradbury said: ...still not seeing any results… I even contacted them and they checked all of my account and said nothing was wrong. Even told me I would see something on 31st July…. nope, nothing. It’s starting to annoy me now, I know my songs are being used in youtube videos because I have sent Adrev links to at least 20.

Looks like Sophonic might be right here, and we’re looking at least a 5 month delay here before we get to see the results for ourselves. Presumably we’re waiting on YouTube to issue AdRev with the ContentID data.

HolyHammer said: Am I correct in assuming that you upload non-watermarked files to AdRev? This would be a lot easier if I just uploaded from Soundcloud, but I watermarked all of those. What works best?

I’d stick to uploading your unwatermarked music directly to AdRev, rather than via SoundCloud. It’s probably better to keep the fingerprinting process as clean and accurate as possible.

MusicBoxStudios said: No worries, in the mean time I’ll just stick to the ancient AJ philosophy…...”Dude just make more music!”

Haha, well I can proudly admit I’ve never issued that as advice! To me that’s akin to saying “Just bury your head in the sand, keep working hard for nothing and pretend there isn’t a problem!” ;)

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AlumoAudio says

I just signed up, and in the email it said after 2 months you will see the results.

That’s right, just looked at mine and it says “You’ll be able to see the earnings for your tracks and all videos your recordings are in within a couple months from your upload (it takes time to find your music in YouTube!)”.

I wouldn’t take that too literally however. I uploaded to another AdRev account about 3 months ago (for my non RF music), and still nothing is showing up on that one. I think a bit of patience is going to be needed here.

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AlumoAudio says

..or can I assume my music just isn’t good enough for criminals? :)

LOL! Missed that first time round!

The thing that this is based on is how many videos our music gets used in and doesn’t necessarily correlate to ‘quality’. I’ve got some pretty lame tracks that just have seen very modest sales in the RF arena, that have ended up on some very popular videos. The kids think “well if this popular YouTube channel is using this music, and getting loads of views and subscribers, then I want that music too!”, regardless of the actual track.

It’s a completely different world out on YouTube, so I try not to focus on things like that. I get more frustrated when I upload a track I’m really proud of to AJ and doesn’t even get a look in!

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