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AlumoAudio says

Hi Kirk,

This was something I came across when I first started my channel, and found it quite curious why they weren’t allowing us to add our own merch links. The way I see it is that YouTube would’ve decided to leave certain sites, such as RF marketplaces off of their approved merch list, simply because it’s a business model that potentially conflicts with their very own business model.

You have to remember that YouTube (which of course owned by Google) rely purely on advertising revenue. When licensed music is used on YouTube, the user has the power and opportunity to remove that very advertising that supports YT/Google in the first place. It’s a conflict of interest.

The companies outlined in their list of approved retailers wouldn’t necessarily have any real impact on taking away from Google’s business. This is why, unfortunately, we have to make do with adding manual links into our descriptions. However, it’s worth adding an annotation at some point during the video to remind the viewer to check the video description for full licensing details. That’s what’s been working for me anyway!

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AlumoAudio says

Matt thankyou so very much for bringing AdRev to my attention months ago. I have synched my Soundcloud account to AdRev since I am sure revenue is to be earnt. I have had limited success so far with earnings yet I anticipate that this will indeed grow. The proliferation of unlicensed usage of music for third party gain needs to be addressed and I for one am a staunch convert to fingerprint technology. I am not affiliated to a PRO but I am coming around to the idea since sales pick up month after month and the size of traffic I have on a daily basis and growing views on Soundcloud signify that it is maybe time to “recoup” for unlicensed usage of my music.
Once again thank you for bringing clarity to fingerprinting – AdRev. :)

No probs at all Graham! Glad to have helped.

As I’ve mentioned before, the main idea has always been to protect and monitor our music out in the wild. The earnings aspect of it should ideally be seen as a secondary benefit.

However, it always stands the chance that an unlicensed instance of our music ends up on a video, or videos with many millions of views or even those that go viral. We’ve seen them brought to our attention numerous times before, and we’ll no doubt see them again. Getting our music tracked this way gives us that peace of mind, and the opportunity to take action. Something that we couldn’t even consider doing previously.

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AlumoAudio says

Thanks Sascha! That’s really kind of you dude and happy to see my efforts are being reciprocated!

I’m certainly not out on a brownie points mission with this, as admittedly I’ve always felt I was being overly ‘pro AdRev’ at times. But being an early adopter of this technology, I’ve always felt an obligation to pass my findings and methods on to my fellow friends and composers. Most of us here are all in the same boat (regardless of our sales statuses) and we all need as much information along with protection on our assets that we can get. The AdRev system is probably the closest thing we’ve got to this right now.

@Pavel: Ok, I know I’m not Envato staff so therefore I probably won’t satisfy your enquiry, but I have indeed already spoken to the folks at Envato regarding my involvement with AdRev, and despite them not having an official stance and currently no explicit rulings on the matter as of yet, they’ve been very understanding and supportive of the idea.

Support have already updated their knowledgebase with a procedure to clear any claims here and are now fully aware of the drill, should they receive any enquires.

Regarding making customers aware of the possibility of having to show their License Certificates, again this is something I’d like to see RF libraries in general adopting, and making it common knowledge amongst buyers. YouTube is rapidly changing it’s format and logistics and the prerequisite for users to show licenses to have videos monetized is now becoming the norm.

We’ve still got some way to go with this before it’s all smooth sailing however. Libraries need to be very aware of these changes (not so much AJ, but many others), and work on their wording/marketing and dropping the pretence that using RF music means an automatic exclusion from copyright scrutiny, because it simply isn’t true.

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AlumoAudio says

Audiomicro? It’s just a typo or AdRev is working with Audiomicro?

Haha not a typo, AdRev and ContentID is owned by AudioMicro Inc.

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AlumoAudio says

By the way, if I have sold one of my track to someone without using AudioJungle(Yes, I can do that, I am unexclusive author) and later this buyer have received AdRev claim, what should he do? I think that I must make my own written license which I send to buyer after he pays for my track? Maybe someone have some template of this kind of license?

You just send a quick email to support@audiomicro dot com with a link to the video and ask them to remove the claim. It’s usually done within a few hours.

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AlumoAudio says

After that annoyed tweet from buyer I wanter to delete all tracks from there(I ve made only 4 cents in 4 months – its nothing) , I wasn’t able to do that. So be careful with AdRev.

Now imagine if you had unauthorised/ripped music end up on a bunch of videos with over 4 million views each. AdRev would be your best friend, believe me! ;)

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AlumoAudio says

Alumno, can you let us know if there is money to be made with ADREV?

Yep. Most of my earnings are from AdRev.

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AlumoAudio says

@Blue_Atom: Yep, and ‘many’ would be an understatement! Admittedly, the vast majority of these unauthorised uses are from my more popular items, mostly in the upbeat ukulele category. They seem to find themselves on many vlogs, cat videos and so called ‘beauty guru’ vids. But epic cinematic music also seems to be the focus of ‘vid ripping’ and re-uploading too.

@Pavel: We’re now entering a new era in using music on YouTube and something that’s becoming more and more unavoidable.

Before YouTube users can activate any form of monetization on their videos (which most do), YouTube now require all uses of third party material to proved before they will activate it. They have to show their license certificate like it or not.

Just because they purchased a royalty-free license from AJ or wherever, doesn’t mean they are exempt from copyright scrutiny. This has never been the case, and unfortunately a massive misconception when it comes to using RF music on YouTube and the internet.

Sure, there are some buyers that may get upset, and try and put the blame on us composers. The reality is that they are simply unaware of the legalities behind using copyrighted music on the internet and mostly unaware that they have access to a license certificate.

It’s a simple case of explaining the situation and once they use their purchased license certificate to clear any claims, it suddenly becomes apparent to them what they’ve actually purchased and what it’s to be used for. The vast majority of my customers are very aware of this now, and always come back to me for more music. :)

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AlumoAudio says

Ok Thanks. so basically if i upload my stuff to AdRev then anytime someone buys my track and uses it in a video..they will get a third party message?

Yes, exactly. You can put a note on your item page referring them to this knowledgebase article too, just so they know what to do when they see the third party notification appear.

Also, you can refer any customers to here, where they can enter their video link and copy/paste their license certificate.

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AlumoAudio says

So Adrev is only for videos that use our music that’s not on AudioJungle but we dont know about it or people who use our watermarked tracks??

AdRev is for tracking and monetizing unauthorised or uncleared uses of our work on YouTube.

It’s the videomaker’s responsibility to remove any ‘third party claims’ on our music using their purchased license certificate – which is exactly what it’s to be used for.

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