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AlumoAudio says

Why are we allowed to use it? If im understanding correctly..people who buy our music on AudioJungle are buying royalty free. If they use it in a video and monetize it then how are we allowed to make money of that video? Isn’t that Royalties? Thanks!

AdRev, believe it or not, is short for ‘Advertising Revenue’. That’s a completely different form of income to ‘Royalties’.

Also, if a YouTube user uses our fingerprinted music in their videos and wishes to monetize it, then our own monetization on that video is removed using a purchased license certificate.(ie. we no longer make any revenue on that video).

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AlumoAudio says

Since being on YouTube, I must get several of these kind of requests every month, mostly from non-profits, charities and various religious denominations.

I always find it quite ironic that these groups use financial austerity as their reasoning to acquire ‘free stuff’, yet are putting us composers in that very position. They seem to believe that being a non-profit or individual hobbyist, gives them some kind of entitlement. Music is usually top of the list when it comes to this.

99.9% of the time I’ll reject their requests, and explain to them that regardless of usage, a license is always necessary as it will protect them from copyright infringement and helps to support me as a creator. I think this approach is important, because it educates the public and brings the awareness that even musicians need to earn money to live!

However, being on AdRev, there has been the odd occasion whereby I needed to grant permission, for various reasons. This is the response I usually issue, and they can also use this note to show YouTube that they’ve had permission from you:

Thanks for getting in touch and for considering the use of my music on your video.


I am able to grant permission for you to use my music freely on your YouTube videos, on the condition that any ‘third party content’ match notifications that appear in your Video Manager that feature my music are clicked and ‘Acknowledged’. This will show that you have accepted the terms and conditions for using my material and prevent any copyright strikes from appearing on your channel.

Also, all ‘monetized’ YouTube channels and videos require a purchased license to be shown before they will activate it, so please bear this in mind if you intend on enabling monetization on your videos.

Alongside this, if the video / soundtrack is to be broadcast externally on national/international TV or radio networks, or used within a commercial setting, then an appropriate license must first be purchased via the link in my video descriptions or via the ‘portfolio’ link below. This is to cover you from a legal standpoint and to give you the necessary rights to perform my material in such a manner, as unfortunately just giving writers credits doesn’t cover such usages.

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AlumoAudio says

Right now, the idea of a ‘summer sale’ on individual items would be financial suicide.

Many of us here need all the income we can get during these slower periods, and with the already low priced items, I just couldn’t see it being a viable option to attract more buyers.

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AlumoAudio says

Very, very slow for me right now. And as far as global RF sales go – almost flatlining, and worryingly so.

Global sales down by a whopping 70+% from around this time last year (which even then, I considered to be slow). Sure, we could blame it on the summer, July 4th, weekends and all that jazz, but I don’t know. This year, something’s up, with the other RF sites seemingly appearing to struggle. Just reading some of their forums demonstrates this.

On a positive note however, AJ is the only site that seems to consistently attract buyers and sales during these sluggish periods, even though they may be lower than usual.

If my stats continue in this fashion and things don’t pick up to what they were, the temptation to ditch all the other sites, slip on my (non existent) Envato tshirt and revert my entire AJ portfolio to exclusive status will definitely be on the cards, that’s for sure! ;)

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AlumoAudio says

I know that i forgot to monetize one of Youtube videos promoting a song from my portfolio and when i tried it said i was using third party content from AdRev…..and i had no idea what was going on. Does it also happen that if you forget to monetize a vid and someone buys your track here and uses it then you cant monetize it ever?

Ok, so ContentID is a digital fingerprinting technology that YouTube uses to scan and match all uploaded media, such as music and video footage (as explained in this vid). In order to get your music into the system and tracked by ContentID in the first place, it needs to be manually uploaded to the system via one of the many portals such as AdRev, ONErpm, TuneCore (the list goes on).

Unless you’ve manually submitted your own music to AdRev to have your music tracked and monetized and you have full access to the administration, then it indeed looks like one of your digital distributors (maybe Routenote) have submitted this to AdRev themselves as part of their distribution I spoke about earlier. They’ll also take some, if not all the monetization revenue from this too, which you may or may not be entitled to.

You’ll have to check with your distributors to find out which company uploaded your music to have it tracked, as they’re the ones currently receiving the revenue on that, as each company has it’s own policies, and terms of agreement.

It’s a pretty awkward situation to have your music being monetized on YouTube by someone else, without you even being aware if it. It’s actually a pretty big problem we’re facing at the moment on YouTube. These days it’s happening quite often I’m afraid to say, with people abusing the system and attempting to upload single guitar chords and even a JFK speech, and claiming it as their own to monetize! Madness, but I digress.

Regarding the monetizaion of customer videos, as long as the user has a License Certificate from you (via the ‘downloads’ section in their Envato/AJ account), they can use it to clear claims and activate monetization on their videos via a ‘matched third party content’ link next to their uploaded video, and clicking ‘Dispute’. But do be aware that sometimes, the distributors make it very difficult and reapply the ‘third party claims’, as they want the ad revenue, especially if it’s a very popular video! Hope that explains it anyway.

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AlumoAudio says

Guys, please check very carefully the terms and conditions before uploading to some of these aggregate distributors.

I know for starters that TuneCore, CD Baby and Routenote distribute your music to ContentID, so you’ll have to make sure that you can actually opt out of this if you don’t want any involvement with that or want to avoid any nasty surprises (such as when a customer emails you complaining that their video containing your licensed music has been flagged by YouTube).

The problem is that every time someone uploads licensed music from you to YouTube as part of their video, YouTube will then automatically notify the user that their video contains third-party content, administered by the distributor. Unfortunately, you’ll have to deal with the customer, YouTube AND the distributors to try and clear any claims and can get very messy very quickly if you don’t know what you’re doing!

Also, if your music is already being tracked by ContentID via these distributors, you won’t be able to use any other digital fingerprinting companies such as AdRev. These are the preferred company to use in this area, as they effectively own and run ContentID and composers can clear claims directly with them.

@KabbalisticVillage: Personally I don’t think many, if any people would purchase a $17 license for listening enjoyment, but I’m pretty certain they’d purchase a $0.99 track to use on their video. That’s why we have to be careful when promoting it, and make it VERY clear that there’s a big difference between the two uses. Regarding BandCamp, as long as it’s being sold and marketed purely as music for listening enjoyment, I can’t see a problem with that, as it’s similar in principle to iTunes, etc. ie. not regarded as a royalty-free licensing site.

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AlumoAudio says

Alumno, Just make everyone buy it for $17 is my instinct. Today was like a day where I sold 3000 copies of 1 song in one day on I-tunes. My intent is not to brag, but to let everyone know that the money is out there! We just have to grab it from big companies.

You’re absolutely right. I think openly promoting the iTunes ‘listening’ music directly alongside the $17 ‘licensing’ music is possibly a bit tempting for some, especially as a lot of our customers are on very limited budgets. Think I’ll stick with promoting just the licensing music.

And good work on the big seller! I was also lucky enough to effectively sell ‘1500 copies of 1 song on iTunes’ just last week, so yes there’s definitely money up for the taking! :)

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AlumoAudio says


Personally, YouTube is going to be my main portal for promoting my iTunes tracks. I’ve lost count of how many messages I receive via my YouTube channel asking if they can buy the music via iTunes, for “doing their homework to”! It’ll probably just be a case of adding a new link in the video description and video annotations, giving the option to purchase specifically for “personal and home listening” or something like that. I’ll chip in on this if I discover any other enlightening things along the way. :)
Is it possible that selling your music on Itunes for 0.99$ per track would somehow decrease your overall earnings? I mean, who knows how many people were actually buying a license for your music on AudioJungle just to have it for personal/listening use. I think that this new option is fantastic for exclusive authors, but still, different people will notice different results with it.

Yes, you’re right and something that needs to be considered closely, especially in terms of advertising the fact that the music is available only for $0.99. It would be a shame to see everyone suddenly on the lookout for $0.99 music to use in their videos, especially as it sounds so similar to the $17 alternative.

With that in mind, maybe it is a better option if we just privately refer people to our iTunes music, should they ask for it, on an ad hoc basis. I’d love to hear how Tim and PZ are approaching this.

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AlumoAudio says

So who want to give everybody a quick run through of the most efficient and cost effective way to get up on itunes and the best way to attract a few buyers there?

I’m no expert on this (maybe Tim or PZ could chime in?), but I’m uploading an albums worth of stuff as we speak to Reverbnation, and going to use them as a music aggregator to get my stuff into iTunes, GooglePlay, Amazon, etc, using their à la carte distribution option.

You have to pay a yearly fee in order to do so ($49 a year for RN), which is variable amongst aggregators, but if you don’t meet iTunes requirement to go directly through them (such as having 20 albums in your catalogue and a bunch of UPCs/EANs/JANs/ISRCs for your music), then you’re going to have to use an Apple approved aggregator anyway. But my guess is everyone’s situation is going to be slightly different. Also, non-US peeps will need to acquire a US Tax-ID (EIN) too before they can start earning on iTunes, so that’s something else to sort out.

There’s quite a few distributors, so best check them out and all the options via the iTunes submission application. Personally, I’m avoiding certain companies such as TuneCore and CD Baby, as I believe they’re involved with digitally fingerprinting your music for YouTube monetization, something that may conflict with my involvement with AdRev. You may be able to opt out of this, but rather not take the risk, as it could potentially open a massive can of worms.

Personally, YouTube is going to be my main portal for promoting my iTunes tracks. I’ve lost count of how many messages I receive via my YouTube channel asking if they can buy the music via iTunes, for “doing their homework to”! It’ll probably just be a case of adding a new link in the video description and video annotations, giving the option to purchase specifically for “personal and home listening” or something like that. I’ll chip in on this if I discover any other enlightening things along the way. :)

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AlumoAudio says

Thanks for the update Scott!

Excellent, excellent news all round! Very happy with this development, as I’m sure many others will be too. Right, time to finally get that iTunes account up and running, I’ve been promising myself! :)

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