Looks like your creative director is looking for a sucker. Custom work prices start from 3 figures and depend on genre, complexity, duration and your self esteem.
you were actually criticising stock sites for bringing guys like you into the music scene…
Soundengine, reading comprehension is important. I’m not criticizing stock sites, I’m criticizing dirt-cheap stock sites. If getting 3 figures prices for licensing is more difficult nowadays it’s because of the dirt-cheap stock sites, not because of the “guys like me”. By the way, I’ve been and I still do sell 3 figures licenses, I just have a concern it will be more and more difficult with dirt-cheap stocks popping up all over the net like mushrooms after the rain.
Now as you say that you see yourself in the kiddo category, all I can say is don’t be too hard on yourself.You see that’s the epitome of honesty, and you call me a hypocrite.
@AmethistLab – I already referred to your points in my previous posts. By the way, most of my items are not exclusive and indeed, I AM somewhere where I think is fair.
Anyway, congrats for your 666th forum post
Now that you know who’re you dealing with, select your words wisely in your next posts
Thanks! At least somebody’s not twisting around what I say.
take it calm on the wordings, it’s just not done to talk about “this sh!t”, “f.. dumb people”, etc. etc. It’s just not very cool.
I use obscene words not because I’m angry or in attempt to insult anybody, but because sometimes those words nail the meaning more precisely then anything else and at the same time show how I feel about certain topic. That’s how people talk where I from. Considering that we are not on a Disney Princess forum and that participators of this discussion are grown men who already know all these words, I allow myself to communicate with my natural wording. Again, no offense intended, just being myself.
What I find hypocritical about your earlier post is you are calling a lot of music here (even some popular ones) “crap”, “average”, “made by a kiddo with a laptop”, yet the stuff you upload here are no better than average AJ music. Maybe you are not uploading your best stuff here but if you are going to sound snobbish in one field, at least you should have one spectacular work to support your point.
I never claimed to be with the pros or better than an average Audiojungler, this is your misinterpretation. I see myself in the “kiddo” category, not with the conservatoire guys with super duper gear. I don’t have formal musical education or expensive equipment and yet, I have more sales than the guys that do.
Also you are calling music on AJ as crap and at the same time suggesting that the same “crap” actually worth more.
Neither have I said that AJ music is crap, you can go back and read again. What I said was that sometimes there are really bad-produced files among top sellers, because many buyers don’t have skills to distinguish between well-produced music and a mediocre one. I do believe though that from an objective perspective, production music is less authentic and soulful than artistic music, but it doesn’t mean that it’s such because artists are incapable of doing better. After all it’s adjusted to market demands and its main purpose is selling potential, not artistry. There’s plenty of talented artists and skillful audio engineers here.
@soundengine – If being honest without trying to be liked by everybody you call hypocritical, then something is seriously f…d up with your judgement. Yes, I don’t bother to be politically correct and I realize that a lot of what I say compromises my well-being here, but if I have an opinion I will be frank and I won’t hold it back.
Coriiander saidLet’s keep what I said in the right context and refrain from erroneous quotations.
Art-of-Sound, guess what. Do you have any idea what a professional software developer makes an hour? That’s serious money. Yet countless of them work for FREE, yes for free, simply because they want to. They help companies on their projects, they contribute loads to the opensource-community, they think along with product designers. Why? Because they love it, to be in touch with other developers, to network, to contribute, to make a little name, to say: hey, I’m part of that. It’s not much different from AudioJungle or anyother stock market. So no, people that sell their stuff for $10 (or even free like some sites, leave alone the Public Domain!) are not, I quote, “f.. stupid”. As mentioned before: selling 10 tracks here, is about a month income for, for example, Thai people. And there are plenty around. And there’s plenty of other motives for people to sell their stuff here, networking, learning and fun for example.
You write that you can say about AudioJungle here whatever you like, but I really don’t think you should be speaking like this in public. For the simple reason that you’re business partners of sorts. You don’t say publically about your partners, and I quote again, “this sh!t”. Plus, more importantly, by speaking of “f.. stupid” (etc.), you discredit an awful lot of people who’re taking this quite serious, putting loads of effort in, including me to whom being able to make part of this ‘sh!t’, is a real valueable thing in this stage of my life (it was different when I had companies, but I already wrote about that). You sound like you have a problem with the motives of people here. You sound like you cannot understand or believe that this actually CAN and DOES help people forwards. I find it ignorant, short-sighted and right-out rude to speak like that about the place in public.
How can you compare software developer who contribute their skills with authors who sell their work for peanuts? Their motives are entirely different. Authors who agree to be paid $5 for their full length track don’t think about helping or contributing, they just think that a little buck is better than no buck and believe me, they are not from third or even second world countries.
Sorry if I offended you or anyone else, I seriously believed that no one is happy with with selling his tracks to multi-million budget projects for $17, when he can and should sell for more.
I understand that “this actually CAN and DOES help people forwards”, I also understand it can help them even further if a more reasonable pricing model will be adopted.
if anyone here is complaining about the pricing and you don’t like it, then it’s simple…. don’t support the marketplace. I find it to be quite hypocritical to complain about stock music pricing but still be selling here.
I’m not afraid to say that I don’t like the pricing here, especially when it comes to big budget projects. If anyone says that he is happy with selling his tracks to multi-million budget advertising campaigns for $17, he’s either f… stupid, or a f… liar. I believe I’m still allowed to express my discontent about the current pricing system and sell here – the two don’t contradict each other. I’ve seen far more reasonable pricing models on other stock markets and there’s nothing wrong to wish for them here. I’ve thought about pulling my stuff off but decided to leave it, because my withdrawal won’t solve the problem and the AJ income is too high to be given up just for some principles.
I know another stock market that sells tracks for 10 bucks – now that is really inappropriate and I’ll never be a part of this disdain. Can’t believe that people, including some Audiojunglers, signed up to this sh!t. So I ask: what’s next? If someone opens a stockmarket that sells tracks for 5 bucks, would you sign up for that too? Is that how you value you work? Where’s the red line?
Thank you Sebastian! They didn’t answer my question though, but nevermind.
A client told me that he wants to use my track in a project that will be distributed as
2. Video- series
I told him that he needs 3 licenses, because it’s 3 different end-products, but now I’m not sure.
Although it seems logical to me that an online commercial and a tv commercial are two different end products, I can understand why Envato considers them as one – after all both are motion picture. In my case the outputs are radically different, so I believe I was right telling the client that he needs 3 licenses.
Hey, Sebastian, could you please ask the support something for me. Since you already have opened a ticket the communication between you will be faster then if I open a new ticket. Can you ask them: If a project is distributed in 3 different formats such as audio program, video and podcast, would one license suffice or is a separate license required for each format?