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Creattive you are being a bit too over

Opener – opening sequence, identity forming – like simpsons , niptuck, or well known true detective. it has particular style which is not editable and says clearly what the show is gonna be about. It opens and creates certain mood before show starts.

Intro – introduction – editable and doesnt need to be very clear in style terms. Has to be informative, bring text information or visual picture information. Thin line between opener and intro in vh but in tv world its clear thing as there is no need for customization.

Trailer – title sequence. The whole purpose of trailer is to show off something that has already been done and show it in pieces. In example – A long 2 hour movie show in 50 seconds. So there is visual full screen information and text or overvoice giving info. Trailer is like candy to be eaten later. You give just enough and tease.

Slideshow – slides showing information. The whole animation is to presents slides which carry information not connected or connected to slideshow animation itself.

Logo – logotype, corporate or artistic. The whole animation information is made out of logo itself. All clear.

The thing is cyzer, we are selling templates here. A simple logo reveal can be used as a show intro by the client if he wants to. A trailer template can be used as a slideshow as well, because it has some titles and placeholders for videos inbetween. Viceversa a slideshow template could be edited to be a trailer – or an intro.

Logos feature a logo, yes, but work with texts, images and sometimes videos as well if the user inputs them, and can be used as title reveals or short intros. They also feature additional text placeholders that can hold a tagline or other information input by the client.

You even use the words “logo”, “opener” and “intro” all in the name of one of your files, although you said in your earlier post they are not interchangeable ;)

The borders are blurry because it depends on what the user does with the template. I’d say it is especially blurry between opener, intro and logo.

Thanks for defining them for me, although I hoped there were some rules like “slideshows have no text placeholders” or “a logo reveal with more than one text placeholder for the tagline is an opener” etc, that would be clear.

I also don’t know what you mean with “being a bit too over” – cannot find that expression with google – but if you thought I was sarcastic, then no I do really struggle with selecting a category for my templates from time to time, so I was hoping to get some insight from the broadcast world.

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I just want to mention that intro is intro and trailer is trailer. Logo is logo and logo has nothing to do with trailer or slideshow or opener.

The first thing would be to understand what all those words mean and have some background in broadcasting and tv.

Please enlighten us what are the exact definitions of opener, intro, logo reveal, trailer, and slideshow.

I’d say especially here on videohive the borders are not clear.

But as you seem to understand the differences while I am not so confident, I hope you can finally and once and for all make it clear for all of us.

Thanks :)

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2. Why would author post his project with a tag RED or what ever when his car color is editable.

even if he doesn’t tag it with “red” it won’t be found for the search term blue, why should it be. Leaving out tags makes no sense even if colors are changeable, that is nonsense as well cyzer. authors would need to tag their items with every single color if the car color is editable to show up in search results.

However, I kind of agree with both of you. It makes no sense to show results for “logo opener” when you are searching for “particle logo opener”. However, it would make sense to show results for “particle logo” when it is searched for “particle opener”.

I remember the search being “smart” with some words, i.e. also looking for synonyms of the searched keywords, so if you look for “opener” you also find “intro”. In the same way the search could be set to leave out generic words or colors like “blue” but that would not make sense in all cases.

Overall, people using search engines learn over time how they work. If I search for “car opener blue” and find nothing, I may try it with “car opener” instead. Buyers are not dumb, we all have played with search engines before.

So I don’t see the concerns raised by c_you as that big of a deal, as I think buyers are smart enough to be able to use the search the proper way. I.e. if they figure out that colors may be changeable, they leave out the “blue” word in their search.

The other way around, if we would show thousands of files that have nothing to do with the search terms but only one of them, there is no way of the user controlling the search as it gives all kind of random results. Thus, it is better to let the user remove search terms instead of the search engine.

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what programs will you use? Photoshop and Indesign? Or also after effects and 3d renderings?

You can go for an imac then you don’t have to think about what you buy but you will also get a pretty slow machine compared to a windows desktop, especially since you don’t need another monitor.

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I’ve actually always assumed Envato purposely orders their marketplaces by sales & revenues. if you take a look at the the menu you’ll see from left to right the most profitable marketplaces. If you look at the popular items for each marketplace you’ll notice ThemeForest & CodeCanyon gets thousands of sales while the rest reach the hundreds. :)

Yep that’s how I see it as well. The top menu is a great representation of how big or how important your marketplace is to envato.

But I’m not so sure if videohive really produces more revenue than audiojungle by now. Audiojungle top authors reach a good number of sales per month.

The reason I think VH produces more revenue than AJ is because Videohive has many items prices in the $50-60 range that have sold thousands of copies.

When I checked items ranging at the same price on Audiojungle, sales accumulated to only hundreds (or perhaps ~1k sales).

So in total revenue I think VH makes quite a lot more than AJ, but I’d be interested to hear an official reply by one of the staff members? :)

There aren’t many files in the 50-60 dollar area, I wouldn’t base the guess on single files. Looking at the top 20 authors list, sales number are about the same on both marketplaces (videohive a bit more), but the audiojungle list contains authors with 1000+ sales that almost solely have $18 files which is higher than the average price of videohive portfolios I’d guess with logo stings ranging from 10-13 dollar and motion graphics below that.

I guess videohive still makes a bit more overall but it’s getting closer…

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I’ve actually always assumed Envato purposely orders their marketplaces by sales & revenues. if you take a look at the the menu you’ll see from left to right the most profitable marketplaces. If you look at the popular items for each marketplace you’ll notice ThemeForest & CodeCanyon gets thousands of sales while the rest reach the hundreds. :)

Yep that’s how I see it as well. The top menu is a great representation of how big or how important your marketplace is to envato.

But I’m not so sure if videohive really produces more revenue than audiojungle by now. Audiojungle top authors reach a good number of sales per month.

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Well some files have proven that they don’t increase the price even if you increase the size of your template to 8x the initital size.

Great for price dumping.

edit: you can however ask for a price increase and if you did increase the value of your file you will get the price increase. It’s just the question what you would like to achieve: a cheap special offer item with a low price, lower than your competitors for more value (with that destroying overall prices here), or a reasonably priced item.

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There are many reasons why seperated marketplaces are better, also some to keep it in one place.

The thing that makes this hard to put in action is the question: What leaves? Stock footage or templates.

Nobody who has put a lot of work in his portfolio would like to start on a new marketplace.

So in my opinion, they won’t be seperated ever and you shouldn’t keep complaining about stock footage stealing front page time. Buyers who are really interested in templates will only look at the template category.

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Overall I agree with you, Tobi.

But some projects are really easier to create. For example, I have my old item, and I want to create new one based on it. For me it’s easy because I can use a lot of elements from the old one. And I can go further I can create another item based on those two, and it will be for me easy too.
The same with title animations. Yes, it’s hard to create them first time. But if you already created it (or bought it), you have a base, you have placeholders for text, you have animation. Play a little bit with keys and you will have different title animation. It’s much easier to create it than from zero.
Even on ideas. It’s hard to create project with original idea then to copy existing one.

I’m not trying to say that this is bad. I’m trying to explain why I think it’s easy.

Yes, we can play this game long time ago. But right now this game become very popular.

Thanks for explaining yourself DOG, I agree with you that it becomes easier to create when you can reuse assets or project structures. But the value for the buyer, i.e. what you pay for as a buyer is the same as if you didn’t reuse those assets. I mean, you still get the assets and a full project that should be worth more.

Maybe we both can agree that prices don’t have to decline overall because what the buyer gets has still the same value. And that is the feeling I get when I look at the price of some files approved in the last months, prices go down, value for buyer stays the same.

Kind regards, Tobi

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Jut because there are a lot of files they don’t become easier to create. Reviewers should judge the files by their true complexity and work and not by their “feeling of getting used to something”.

If it is not fair to reduce the price of old items, it should also be not fair to reduce the price of new items. Also, if old files will stop selling because they are much more expensive compared to the newer templates, it would be more fair to adjust their price and therefor make them competitive again, than to let them stay at their initial expensive price that will make them unattractive for buyers.

If there are new techniques to create a file which make it a lot easier than a year ago, I’d agree that prices should go down. But I don’t think that applies to a lot of files. 181 title animations still need to be created with keyframes just like a year ago. Maybe they use a preset like amor type for a bunch of the title animations but that is also available for years. So I don’t know of these new techniques that make our work much easier and less valuable, it’s still the same keyframe work for most of the stuff.

Maybe I’m missing the one-click solution to create templates that obviouslyhas been available for 6 months now :/

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