Or at least let us start ‘rejected items’ thread where all rejected items go (via soundcloud e.g.).
That way we can at least see what they don’t want and try and draw some conclusions for ourselves.And that argument that reviewers already have to much work. Well it is actually good for them that they should have even more work because if they didn’t they wouldn’t keep 10 reviewers on pay-list for a job that can be done by 3. An analogy with angry ticket checkers on a train or a bus: You refuse to pay the ticket and he yells at you not realizing that it is people who DON’T pay for tickets who keep his job not decent citizens who always have ticket.
I agree…fair enough!
Audiojungle itself is a marketplace, not a music production company. It provides an opportunity to sell music and that’s it. As much as it sucks to have things rejected for no given reason, it’s really not the role of a marketplace to tell their producers how to fix their products/content. Fortunately, the forums have proven to a great place to get feedback in these situations. You’d get way more detailed feedback here, which seems to be what people are asking for in the first place. Having feedback posted in the forum also allows others to learn from those mistakes and how to fix them.
I agree with Lmz, market place is not a music production company, its just placing their standards and sometimes reject, ok I understand the frustration for that, but guys c’mon now, its shouldn’t this topic come to an argument!! Of course it has nothing to do about authors supporting staff replays!! Just an opinion… Wish everybody making great music…!! Keep on!! “The market is out there…
at first thank you very much for taking time to give us such an detailed information about the backgrounds from the reviewers perspective. Of cause it is comprehensible that envato has to time-optimize the review process.
Maybe the point is just that the reviewer decides whether the author will be able to rework the song to get it ready for the market. After having plenty of items approved in the past, it feels kind of rough to get told, that an item does not even have the capability to be improved but whatever …
I would suppose to give reviewers a few more check boxes, so that he can at least do a selection on the fly like:
- One or several instruments sound
- Composition Complexity
- Mixing too muddy
- Mastering Quality
- Mastering Loudness
Just 5 – 10 most common problems, which could be selected within 3 seconds or so.All the best
...What I believe, is that if an author has composing/mixing/mastering/fuzzie issues, one thing is to be asked: If you where a composer etc, and asked to write a short length music for a comercial spot, ready to be seen, in e.g. BBC, whould you give them a track with mixing too muddy, mastering quality low, mastering loudness, other EQ problems etc.? Should be fair enough your track to be rejected in the final check for the broadcast? What I want to say…not all of authors are pro’s or composers, sound engineers etc. Many of them use premade samples, Reason and other software cause they love music and have some brilliant music ideas that other pro’s cant even think of! In order for the marketplace to be competitive/high-end/top class, some of us receive hard reject, others soft, and so on… Nobody whould like, I believe, home-made, on the run or draft items to be in sale… But that’s just my opinion…
In my humble opinion:
a) anybody can identify a strings track played from start to end, just by repeating the notes E-D-C and back again! b) try to give some more interesting riffs, “some ups & downs”, change the chords after a while, try using other instruments also, as the song evolves from start to end, c) in general, try to give the audience the feeling “wait.. I just wanna see where this song is getting to, I’m curious to hear what other interesting things will come to my ears as time passess…!”
P.S. What ever you discuss along with the staff members should stay between you and them, if you think it is not perceived as fair, try to post the issues in general, not copy/paste the discussion, its not polite!
Keep up the good work, I wish you the best!