Valid is not enough… testing/debugging/browser compatibility/security check, is a big part of a serious web coder job. Only experienced coders will do it fast. And experience has a price.
However, in some countries, 200$ can be a lot of money…Btw, thxs for reminding me that old video, still so true : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2a8TRSgzZY Good luck with your project.
Yes, that’s a big thing that most developers need to do. However, I disagree that it doesn’t take experience for the bug testing. The more experienced the developer, the less the bugs will pop up. I know that nobody is perfect, but the more experienced and practiced the they are, the less likely the mistakes will appear.
Look, I understand that people do this for a living—Some of us do it as a hobby and don’t mind spending that extra time for something we love to do where the money isn’t as well some stuff ends up “not being worth it”. I don’t need to charge 50$ an hour to write HTML /CSS and spend 10hours X $50 to try to find bug fixes that I know aren’t going to show up. And I don’t need to charge.
I’ve looked at Jims requirements and the design and trying to charge someone $500 for a website like he wanted, that’s just robbery. Furthermore, people that have higher rates might not be worth Jim’s time but on the contrary, they aren’t worth his money either.
P.S—Nice video, but you’d be amazed at how far haggling really goes. It’s not the buyers fault for trying, it’s the sellers for giving in…....
I understand what you’re saying about quality. The good thing now a days is that if they’re doing it in a valid manner, and can keep it valid, the source is already generally well put together.
Not always, but it’s usually more of a hassle to keep it valid and still not “be well put together” if that makes sense.
If you’re looking for someone who can do what you ask, you will need to contact me instead. I’m a little lazy to start finding clients for others, the clients need to find me for them haha
@Jim—I received your email and sent it to the coder. I know he’s currently working on a project so far but I’m not sure if he has room for another client right this instant or he might have the time, I’m unsure. I’ll send you a follow up reply shortly!
Thanks for the feedback—I might be able to achieve some of the typography and some of the effects through code, hopefully. If not, I’ll scratch the theme and just try to sell it is a unique 1 time sell to someone and then start over.
Also, what about porting it to a vBulletin theme? Think that would be accepted/sell? Won’t take much design work, just integration something like IDEAL vBulletin 4.2 suite theme that has done pretty well so far.
Thanks for the feedback so far.
The code side of things is still being worked on and isn’t complete. If you guys are taking into account the code, you shouldn’t. I haven’t done any of the jQuery/Ajax. Haven’t done any of the roll overs, nothing. It’s just a WIP for the programming side of things.
The design finished looks like thishttp://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/837/ultimateclangamer.jpg/
EDIT : The only feedback I’m really receiving aren’t really to tell me what needs to be changed. What needs to be changed, what’s wrong with it compared to other gaming themes? I’m not trying to win any super sells here or trying to win the best website award. I’m trying to provide a template to a certain niche market that ThemeForest barely has and the ones they do have, I feel aren’t of the same quality. It might have an outdated layout, but that’s just what gamers want, sadly.
Thanks for the feedback. I will have to take my chances—I designed it based around what most clan/gaming communities are running with as far as layout goes. It does feel a little outdated compared to a lot of the current news/magazine themes.
However, I felt that there is a certain niche about some gaming designs. There are barely any on ThemeForest outside of game review templates and I feel that out of the recent clan/gaming designs released, mine has a higher quality despite that outdated feel.
I appreciate the advice, I’ll check with what they say before I go off redesigning
Forgot to mention that yes it’s not 100% done. I’m more focused on the design aspect than the code aspect as of right now.
When I initially did it for vBulletin, I hired someone else to code it since I was very limited on time and they did a bad job. Hence the first link, I wanted to redo it all in valid HTML5 /CSS3 and go from there.
Contact me Jim. I can recommend you to someone—What I don’t get is how people are like “write good code”
Valid HTML /CSS is valid—You can’t really get much better then that. One of the guys I’ll recommend will probably do it for 100-200$ and be 100% Valid
I’d say it’s 50/50 because as a designer/programmer they both can take a good while to do. Yes, programming does take longer to do, but you also have to be more unique to be a designer. As long as you can write valid code, you can do it for nearly any site. Same can’t be said about designing.
Been a member here for quite a while but never sold nor even bought anything. I just ended up lurking and what not
Think I’m finally going to start “trying” to sell some of my items here and what not. And that being said, I’m looking for some guidance from everyone to make sure my first item I’m going to upload will make it through. If it’s common for it to be rejected, that’s fine—I’ll improve where I can.
I’m a big gamer and I remember when I first started a gaming community, I couldn’t find any good designs or ready-made sites, not even on here (atleast good enough for my likings with the features needed)
So… I made one. Let me know your thoughts and if you feel it’ll make it accepted and what type of rate it’ll sell at if you don’t mind.
1. Right now it’s just HTML5 /CSS3—100% Valid
2. It’ll be integrated with Joomla/Wordpress running Community Builder/BuddyPress, Kunena/bbPress and some other extensions to bring out the features of the site.
3. My goal is to make it a 100% ready to install template with everything working 100%
4. It also has a style for vBulletin which you can already see live (includes the icons as well) www.cerebralgamers.com/forum.php
5. Plan on selling the .PSD, the template in valid HTML5 /CSS3 and then selling Joomla/Wordpress as the initial release. In the near future, I plan on releasing the vBulletin 4 Suite package. However, vBulletin was a little more limited to the design aspect than what I initially thought.
Let me know what you think?