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Thing is site in question does not only sell my theme. It sells themes from all ThemeForest authors.

Therefore sending a single DMCA and ignoring that site is stupid and irresponsible.

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Hey guys,
Reported a warez site to Envato support and got this reply from Envato Rights Management team>

Hi Myroslav,

I’m Sarah and I work with the Rights Management team. I just wanted to let you know that while we are looking into the Web site you reported, Patrisha did pass on the correct information.

As the creator of the item, it’s good to police your own work. Meaning, submitting a DMCA to any site that is violating your intellectual copyright.

Did you know that we have an article full of resources that could potentially help you out?

https://help.market.envato.com/hc/en-us/articles/202501554-Tools-you-can-use-to-report-illegal-links-of-copyrighted-work

Kind Regards,

Sarah

Envato Market Help Officer

In other words it is “your problem. f@#$ off”.

If I’m not mistaking, Envato used to deal with such issues. At least they told they were in their support answers.
Guys, can you please remind me, why I’m letting you have 30% of my item price? :)

Kind regards,
Miroslav (from Dream-Theme)

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Guys, if I’m understanding correctly, we’re talking about this guide: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-supplying-digital-services-to-private-consumers/vat-businesses-supplying-digital-services-to-private-consumers#digital-portals-platforms-gateways-and-marketplaces

This paragraph in particular:
If the platform operator identifies you as the seller but sets the general terms and conditions, or authorises payment, or handles delivery/download of the digital service, the platform is considered to be supplying the consumer. They are therefore responsible for accounting for the VAT payment that is charged to the consumer.

But it does not say a word whether platform becomes “seller” or “VAT agent” or anything else.

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I have just run into another issue with the changes – the number of invoices. Right now I am sending one invoice a month to my accountant. After the changes I will have to send one per each sale which is few hundred a month. That means my accountants fee will rise few hundred $ :O I don’t see any way to avoid this…

That is not the worst part. Did your accountant already told you how to link all those hundreds of invoices to only one payment (coming from Envato – not from those buyers) ;)

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It’s better than not managing them at all.

This level of support is mandatory – since certain aspects are very similar to changing the marketplace policy overnight with intentionally convincing wordings to keep us silent.

I guess Envato unnecessarily lost trust with the mandatory support announcement – which strongly added negative point of views towards every decision they make later and today.

If I understood everything correctly, according to this paragraph of VAT guideline: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-supplying-digital-services-to-private-consumers/vat-businesses-supplying-digital-services-to-private-consumers#digital-portals-platforms-gateways-and-marketplaces and this flowchart: https://whitehall-admin.production.alphagov.co.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/390300/VAT_MOSS_Flow_chart.pdf authors (both from EU and outside) do not have to worry about VAT at all.

On the other hand if we are considered sellers according to EU laws, we still have to deal with tons of accounting and authors from some countries have to register companies/micro businesses. Which is not what can be called “creative”.

So situation is still far from being 100% clear unfortunately.

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Bizarre, though, that Collis should opt for firefighting these issues now, rather than managing them strategically 12—or even 6—months ago.

It’s better than not managing them at all.

Anyways, my attitude towards the problem has changed from negative to cautiously optimistic. I wish Envato (and Collis in particular) best luck in dealing with these challenges.

Regards,
Miroslav (from Dream-Theme)

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Hello there. Sorry dor my bad english. I have a question, what about non-EU tax countries? I’m living in Ukraine.
You cannot legally sale on Envato marketplace if you’re from Ukraine. There’s simply no legal base in Ukraine for that (since laws are archaic). You have to have a middlemen between you and Envato so it will have a written agreement “with wet stamp” with you. Middlemen will receive funds from Envato and send them to you. Only in this case you can legally receive those funds to your bank account and “show” them to your tax administration.
ohh. I don’t like it at all. I think that my work on this marketplace is over.
You were receiving your funds via Payoneer (not via swift transactions) then, I assume?
I’ve receiving my funds via Scrill. Is this a Swift transaction?

No. Swift is a transaction to your bank. And if you’d try it, the financial control service of your bank would contact you immediately.

Though Ukrainian citizens cannot have accounts in foreign banks (unless they have a special permission from NBU), Payoneer and Skrill accounts are not technically BANK accounts :) And there’s small chance that your tax administration will know about it (unless you try to get money from the card in cash desk of some bank). But I strongly recommend you not to toy with it.

It’s not that hard to find an accountant who is accustomed with selling digital goods abroad. So you can develop a business model suitable for you. Absence of adequate legal base is not the reason to sit on your arse and stop earning money ;)

Good luck mate!

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Dream-Theme
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Hello there. Sorry dor my bad english. I have a question, what about non-EU tax countries? I’m living in Ukraine.
You cannot legally sale on Envato marketplace if you’re from Ukraine. There’s simply no legal base in Ukraine for that (since laws are archaic). You have to have a middlemen between you and Envato so it will have a written agreement “with wet stamp” with you. Middlemen will receive funds from Envato and send them to you. Only in this case you can legally receive those funds to your bank account and “show” them to your tax administration.
ohh. I don’t like it at all. I think that my work on this marketplace is over.

You were receiving your funds via Payoneer (not via swift transactions) then, I assume?

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Hello there. Sorry dor my bad english. I have a question, what about non-EU tax countries? I’m living in Ukraine.
You cannot legally sale on Envato marketplace if you’re from Ukraine. There’s simply no legal base in Ukraine for that (since laws are archaic). You have to have a middlemen between you and Envato so it will have a written agreement “with wet stamp” with you. Middlemen will receive funds from Envato and send them to you. Only in this case you can legally receive those funds to your bank account and “show” them to your tax administration.

Really? I thought that there is a lot of developers and freelancers from Ukraine here and on another freelance websites (from USA or Australia).

Bad luck…

ThemeForest is not a freelancer website. It’s a marketplace/platform/call it as you like :) Freelancers usually have agreements with employers. In this case they can show their profits and pay their income tax.

As I said, law base is archaic in Ukraine and stupid sheet of paper (or absence of it) can create lots of headache in this country.

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  • Has been part of the Envato Community for over 4 years
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Dream-Theme
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Hello there. Sorry dor my bad english. I have a question, what about non-EU tax countries? I’m living in Ukraine.

You cannot legally sale on Envato marketplace if you’re from Ukraine. There’s simply no legal base in Ukraine for that (since laws are archaic). You have to have a middlemen between you and Envato so it will have a written agreement “with wet stamp” with you. Middlemen will receive funds from Envato and send them to you. Only in this case you can legally receive those funds to your bank account and “show” them to your tax administration.

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