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To my opinion the bootstrap grid system is just horrible. The whole mobile first approach is just terribly bad. For example when you have a 3 column grid and you watch it in portraid mode on an iPad, it already stops floating all columns and you see everything underneath each other.

That’s my biggest ( and only ) problem with bootstrap. i do like the basic table styling etc though.

I use a custom starter sheet with my own grid and basic styling for text and form elements.

In Bootstrap 3 you can use this class:

.col-sm-

^ stacks horizontally on iPad in all modes (land/port) and vertically on iPhone in all modes (land/port)

See all options here: http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid-options

To answer the OP, we used to write our own grids etc., but I am now looking into the possibility of using Bootstrap in our plugin/theme development, will see how that goes :)

Thanks mate!

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Enabled Volunteer moderator says

So, basically guys, the common ground of this would be, getting the bootstrap column/grid system, and building the rest of the items upon that, am I getting this right ?

What about the JavaScript elements? I’m not overly fond of using the ones that boostrap provides. I’d much rather use my own code…

How do you guys go around this? Your own JS elements, or the BootStrap ones?

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Enabled Volunteer moderator says

Using their compiler does the job, doing it manually is way less effective and hardcore but sometimes you can’t know whether you’ll need something or not during the project. :)

Many thanks mate! I’m studying Bootstrap now, and I tend to see your point of view on reinventing the wheel! :D

Again, many thanks mate! If anyone else wants to join / +1 / -1 this thread, I’m really looking forward to hearing more opinions! Thus far, bootstrap, here I come! :)

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Enabled Volunteer moderator says

If you don’t use some elements at all in an item, don’t style it, what’s the point? If you, however, want to offer full integration, you can check most of the stuff, but I wouldn’t go too far. You’re using bootstrap as an asset to your item, not the other way around. I usually clean the CSS file of any un-used elements bootstrap provides and try to keep the file as small as possible.

So basically, I can use their compiler, remove any element I don’t require, and style the rest! I agree on going to far, as I believe styling everyone of them would not only be overkill but an overload as well.

Is using their compiler a good idea or do you go through the CSS manually?

Again, thanks for the tips mate! :)

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Enabled Volunteer moderator says

Bootstrap. I honestly don’t see the point in reinventing the wheel if Bootstrap does everything you need. If you need something custom or something Bootstrap doesn’t offer, then yes, custom works.

And here’s another question for you mate, thanks for the answer by the way, do you have to style all elements from boostrap for your current marketplace item, or only the ones you use?

I know I’m a 5 year old member, but hey, I constantly need to learn too!

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Enabled Volunteer moderator says

This is an interesting idea, I know that custom frameworks allow for a much greater flexibility, but, what would you guys recommend? I tend to see that everyone is using Bootstrap lately! :confused:

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+1, I’m having the same issue!

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Enabled Volunteer moderator says

Nothing compares to the real thing… ( 60 mobile files and counting … I’ve yet to find a method for testing other than using my iDevice )

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Enabled Volunteer moderator says

Awesome stuff! I’m amazed! What license is it under? MIT ?

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