To be honest i’m planning too a bazinga – monster – epic theme in the future. That’s mostly because this is selling, i mean look at the popular category, you rarely see a unique item. And because I’m not an awesome designer nor a great coder, i’ll just go with the sheep crowd and do such thing. If however, prices will grow for these types of themes, perhaps i’ll change my mind or be more motivated. In the end they shouldn’t absolutely be in the same category as it affects everything here.
That’s apparently the only way to go lately. Build one theme, with 250 demos, that cover all possible categories… this in my humble opinion is defined as a bundle…
This is just my opinion as an author
Now, the post I’m writing now, is my opinion as a moderator. Since I made this thread as an author, you guys have posted some amazing constructive advice, and I urge yo to continue to do so in a civil manner. I’ll do my best to pass all your advice regarding the review process to staff, and see what can be done about it. But again, I cannot guarantee the changes you guys post will be implemented, I can just pass them on, and I must ask you guys, to think very carefully before asking for changes. Think of the following things
- How do these changes affect buyers? If a buyer purchased a bugged item, even if the item will be fixed, does that guarantee better sale and no negative reviews?
- What is a small bug, we need a precise definition. A CSS bug as small as a z-index can break a layout, and that is no longer called a small bug.
- What is the time frame in which a small bug should be fixed, and how does it affect buyers?
- What should happen if a reviewer detects a small bug, a major bug, and how should buyers be notified to update the item?
Also, please keep in mind that the above list will most likely have to apply to EVERY class of author. No one gets special privileges, so the answers to those questions must be great for authors that have an item that does xx sales a month and authors that have items that do xxxx sales a month.
Please keep in mind the above list. The review process is very sensitive and again I cannot guarantee these changes will be made, as I opened this thread with a completely different goal in mind, yet your feedback is great, but I will pass this thread onward to staff. I do agree that certain aspects of the review process should be improved, yet, my main thread stands. Bashing is simply unethical and shows a complete lack of respect towards staff and buyers. We should discuss these things as a community of authors who want to improve their products and their services towards buyers!
I can’t reply to all of you guys because that would literally mean I’d be stuck here all day, but I will generalize, and I assure you I’ve read all your replies.
- I do agree, that certain aspects of the review process, including disabling of items for small bugs need improvements, but at the same time, I also agree that items should be disable / soft disabled regardless if it affects sales or not for major bugs / critical bugs. We must and I emphasize MUST as authors respect our buyers, our item quality and ourselves. If we don’t do that our sales and the quality of our items goes to hell. It’s as simple as that.
- If the current process is not as you guys wish, I don’t see why you don’t open a thread, and in a civil, respectful manner, without bashing the reviewers, ask for changes to it. Remember, the reviewers are only the messengers, they do what they are suppose to do. Request changes to this, we have a site feedback section. Let’s ask the staff to implement a better system for dealing with small issues. For example, small CSS bugs when discovered should be remedied in 24 hours or less or the item gets disabled. Agreed? Major bugs should get the items soft disabled as soon as possible and for example a message sent to buyers that the item will be back shortly with an update. Agreed?
Last but not least, I didn’t open this thread to give you guys headaches about your items and the process. I opened this thread to point out that items with major bugs ( i should indeed have mentioned this in my main post ) should be removed and the process is fair for that, especially since major bugs and big sales are a nightmare combined. I opened this thread to point out that bashing the review team for doing their jobs, is unethical and is not a part of what this community stands for. Someone said that if authors get reviewed, so should reviewers. Well, fine!
Please give constructive, positive, well mannered, no bashing feedback as to what you believe should change, taking into account that your feedback MUST apply to new authors, as well as to elite authors, to top sellers and no sellers, and also, keep in mind your BUYERS, who deserve the best products with the lowest downtime of an item!
Thank you guys for sharing your opinions and keeping this thread civil.
This is why we can’t generalize the activities of authors as well as reviewers. The “one size fits all” approach is easy to manage, hard to satisfy. This is where Envato have to improve, not just on review process but everything.
More or less agreed! It’s sort of vague but it’s a good observation in some cases.
Regarding the reviewers, I think even if I bring you a decree showing that reviewers are actually up to date with standards, you still wouldn’t believe me, so I’m just going to stop explaining this over and over again!MVPThemes saidAnd likewise, if I bring you information about how an author is on top of their game, but is still rejected, you’d still side with the reviewer and automatically assume it’s an issue with the author.
But I’ve already said that I’m not saying the reviewers aren’t on top of their game. I’m only saying that it’s incorrect to automatically assume that. And to also just assume that they have more of a grasp on things than every author, especially the established ones with a track record of sales.
I’m an elite author. I get rejected as well. In fact, my last soft rejection was a few weeks ago. Do you hear me complaining? Even if i have big bugs or a minor bug, I got served, I fixed my issue, and I got approved… I’m still siding with reviewers, I’m still going to produce more files, and if I get rejected, I will continue fixing the bugs that need to be fixing so I get approves. I persevere… anways have, always will. So do other top authors you don’t see on the forums!