Posts by GDragoN

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GDragoN says

Hi,

You are selling Android apps, and generally they don’t have so many sales as some other categories here. Top selling Android apps have only 400 or so sales, and most have much less. There is not many apps available and that is good for sellers since there is less competition, but the there is less demand too. JavaScript, WordPress, PHP and CSS are best selling categories on CodeCanyon, all other categories have only small portion of sales in comparison.

I doubt that you can do much in terms of promotion to increase sales with Android apps only, maybe you can try to make some items for more popular categories, that might help in bringing exposure to Android apps too.

Milan

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GDragoN says


ok, that is perfect but this rule is absurd as by using logic we find out that forums are hosted on author website and some time that website is a competing marketplaces with envato market
For sure. Nothing is always black and white, this is definitely a gray area, but the main premise of the guideline is to prevent blatant attempts to game the system.

Basically, goal is to prevent linking to competing marketplaces, use of affiliate links to third party websites and things like that, not directly related to item.

For me, it is important that I can link to pages related to the item that can help users. And since all my updates in the past few weeks and new items I released have been approved, it means that my items descriptions are OK and that I don’t need to update all items to remove things from descriptions.

Milan

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GDragoN says


... I recently installed latest Android 4.4.4 KitKat…
how’d you go about doing that? cyanogenmod?

Yes, latest official CyanogenMod 11, comes with KitKat and using ART over Dalvik by default (and that’s why all apps load much faster), and all works great and you don’t get tons of useless apps most manufacturers add. I had CyanogenMod 10 for a while, and few weeks back I got OTA update for it to 11. Now you can install 11 directly with Windows installer (just backup your data first).

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GDragoN says

there is this theory that I think it may be true.

apple release new phone -> apple update the OS for previous phones -> previous phones don’t work as fast as before (slow, various issues, lot of stress for users) -> users decides is time to buy a new phone -> buys new iphone because brand, stuck with purchased apps on apple close marketplace system, not willing to learn a new operating system

apple -> profit $$$$$

That’s why I prefer Android. I have Samsung Galaxy S2 from 2011 (6 months bit older than iPhone 4S), and I recently installed latest Android 4.4.4 KitKat, and my phone got faster, using less battery and memory. In recent memory, Android is only OS that works better on older devices with newer OS versions, and new versions don’t require latest hardware. I have a great phone that I am not going just to throw away when new OS is released so I can make more money to manufacturer.

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GDragoN says

Hi,

You need to contact directly Envato Support: https://support.market.envato.com/hc/en-us/requests/new but as far as I know you can get refund only if you didn’t download items you purchased and want to refund. So, if you downloaded items you purchased by mistake, I doubt they will approve refund. Also, be prepared to wait a while, Envato Support is really slow and it can take a week or so to get response.

Milan

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GDragoN says

That said, there IS some complexity here because it’s offering something for sale outside of Envato Market so just to be clear for now, I just have to get the green light about that however from our TF/CC representative before we update the article and make it official. That person has been tied-up with a bunch of other projects unfortunately, which has prevented a quicker response. Thanks again for understanding, TD, you’ve got the patience of a saint and it’s much appreciated. :)

There are many cases where we need to include links:

1. Twitter links or newsletter subscribe: users need to know about the updates to the items, they need news about the changes or bugs or whatever is relevant. Most of us post info about each update helping users to get latest relevant information about the products they purchase.

2. Links to support forums, tutorials and documentation: this has to be on description page since most users don’t even check the Support tab (many don’t read the description, but that is another problem) or know about Support tab purpose. So, item description is only thing that has any chance of reaching users.

3. Links to other item resources like demos or (as I have) contact form to ask for demo website (so that users can get their fully functional website to test the item before purchase).

Support tab is not useful since most users don’t use it (as proven by users asking for item help in the marketplace forums) and most authors don’t have Support tab set at all.

I agree that links should not include links to other, competing marketplaces, content not directly relevant to item and item support. But, you guys need to take all these things into account and update the rules for links. You created new rules recently without thinking it through and now we have this problem. I can remove all links, no problem, but we will all see increase in support questions if users don’t have direct click access to item resources. Gather data from authors (through another survey if needed) about this, and create rules that will work for everyone, not rules just to say you have them even if they are wrong.

Milan

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GDragoN says


Hey,

So if I’ve understand correctly, I can’t even put a link to my site on my items description page. Right?

Thanks for info :)
Iman
but how one can put a link to his support forum on his item page? That forum is usually on his website where will also have product for sales or link to other marketplaces

I wanted to ask same thing. I have website with tutorials for some plugins, support forums and demos, these things have to be linked from product description, there is no other way. Some of the rules Envato is introducing are totally pointless and not thought through at all, rules for the sake of having rules.

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GDragoN says

This is all absurd, but it was announced some time ago. Problem is what to consider relevant links for the item. Twitter is useful to get updates information, you need links to website support page, documentation page or tutorials pages, videos on YouTube… All that is relevant and must be allowed.

Envato support staff needs to reply to this thread about this, and we need official thread saying what is allowed and what is not, and how long we have to make the changes. But, with all the restrictions Envato is placing, review process will take forever if they are going to check all links in descriptions and documentation to determine if they are relevant or not.

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GDragoN says

You can’t use tables in descriptions, and you can’t achieve this layout for text/image. You can create full width (616px) images to use and include text in them, but it is not the same as you want. Until Envato changes allowed tags and styling for descriptions, there is no other way to make it like that.

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GDragoN says

Would love to understand how an item with just one sale has provided the system enough information and numbers to be considered “trending”. I can’t find any logic in it.

It is very strange algorithm to calculate trends that’s for sure. On Monday I had 2 of my items trending (out of 35 I have), and based on sales in the past few days last week, it was understandable. But today, 20 of my items are trending, and I had only few sales in the past 2 days.

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