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GravityDept says

Let’s say there are 2000 ThemeForest authors. That’s 8000 tokens per year. Roughly 22 tokens used per day. So right off the bat, you’d probably get less than 4 days of exposure (assuming Envato put 20 updated items on the homepage).

I don’t think there’s any way to go back to a system where homepage exposure equals sales. The market is simply too big and too many items are accepted.

Paid updates would make improving items viable, but that ship has sailed :(

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GravityDept says

@ chilly_orange

Here’s a theory. The traffic drop is real, and it’s forcing Envato to evaluate alternative revenue models (that they’ve neglected for years) instead of authors banging out items non-stop for a pinch of exposure.

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GravityDept says

Hey @stewboon, that was an elegant way of saying shut the hell up. Envato and the 15 “chosen” authors got this decision. Disappointing, but thanks for the heads up.

I was one of the “15 chosen authors” (actually only 8 participated), and we didn’t determine this decision. The requests for paid updates were ignored there too. Envato didn’t even respond back. It was just a Google Doc for authors to poke holes at the inevitable support policy, and Envato continued as if nothing happened.

After sleeping on @stewboon’s official response, I’m angrier. The proposal was simply Envato’s final decision, and the 400+ comments here are simply a pressure release valve for Envato. They’re steam into the air.

No dashboard notification, no email after another uproar gets its final Envato comment — just make the thread un-sticky so it disappears. I predict authors will start doing the same.

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GravityDept says

Thanks for your views over the last few days. This is a complicated topic as indicated by the many different opinions shared here. However, after months and months of research, careful analysis, thought and planning, we really do believe this clearer, more sustainable model for support is the best decision for the entire market, both buyers and authors.

Thanks @stewboon, but very disappointing. I won’t be charging for support, and very glad I’ve been building tools to sell updates outside Envato.

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GravityDept says

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GravityDept says

We’re all waiting for a response from Envato.

They should absolutely be informing all users via email that important changes are happening. The “US tax” post is already buried on the blog. Who knows how many actually saw it or the uproar in the forums that saw it’s last Envato comments hundreds ago.

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GravityDept says


I would like to see following changes implemented 2. Charge buyers for updates (This includes everything bug fixes, new features etc)

This one is never gonna happen. Each author has his own idea of design and strategy. Why force all authors to go Avada features (what most clients want) instead of focusing on unique new features?

So if one author pays say $50, and he is the only one, and he wants something like full RTL support, would you do that?

Charging for updates doesn’t imply anything about features. It’s still the author’s choice what to build into their product. It’s the buyer’s choice whether the updates are worth paying for access to.

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GravityDept says

Can we still expect an answer in October? a bit more than 72 hours left, will the post come in that timeframe?

Envato should be using its dashboard notification system (at minimum) to inform all users about important announcements. I always miss the blog posts (few read RSS anymore), and it’s impossible to keep track of forum threads when speculation is swarming and Envato is absent. It’s wasteful checking back constantly for an official response.

I’d much rather comment via Disqus on the blog posts with real threading and solid notifications.

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GravityDept says

the only thing you might want to add is a completely Optional for-pay “platinum support”... ...for say an extra half the cost of the theme per year guarantee 24 hour turnaround time, or something like that.

LMFAO!

If a client asked for guaranteed 24 hour response times for an entire year, they’d get a minimum $12,000 retainer contract from me.

You want that for $30/year on a $60 theme and still give 10% to Envato?!! Absolutely hilarious.

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GravityDept says


A separator/heading is needed between my support text and the “All messages are recorded…” because it looks like that’s part of my support text. See http://cl.ly/Y3vP
Agreed. On it.

Still would like to see that heading.

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