@ AmigoProductions — Because besides more TimTams being an Elite doesn’t really get you anything useful. After selling $250k they give you a $1k advertising spend. At $5 million, they give you a $2k laptop.
Google Analytics data is the only real reward you can’t buy for yourself with all that success. Unfortunately access comes at the $75k mark, so afterward there’s not much to look forward to as your rate is already maxed out.
I’m surprised nobody has brought up the possibility that buyers in EU might turn to buying there themes from authors outside EU to avoid paying more (because of taxes) for an item. Here in the US, I know many people (including myself) that tend to buy from businesses outside there home state to avoid paying taxes on the item(s). That’s because here in the US, online business are only obligated to charge taxes for buyers that reside in the same state as the seller. I see this as the same logic here for sellers and buyers from EU.
@ senorthemes — That doesn’t matter anymore. The new EU law taking effect on January 1, 2015 changes the tax zone to the place of supply not the seller’s location. It appears that a US author selling to an EU customer is required to charge EU VAT if they’re not a non-business (i.e. no VAT number) and remit that sum to the buyer’s national tax service or through the MOSS-VAT process. Both are horrible EU bureaucracy’s for any small business to take on. The process to determine a seller’s tax state and record keeping requirements are equally insane. The EU is economic garbage.
Question to authors: In case of “paid” updates, how would you go about supporting a theme, when not all customers have the same version installed ? Because I’m guessing you would still offer support even if the customer is not on the most recent version of the product? I think that would be a nightmare.
Same as today: help if you can via Q&A. Any fixes that need to be released are applied to the newest release only (and then that becomes the newest release). Buyers must update to get fixes.
It’s always: 1.2 ? 1.3 ? 1.4 ? 1.5
Never this: 1.2 ? 1.3 ? 1.2a + 1.3a ? 1.2b + 1.3b + 1.4
Same as 99% of software on earth is developed unless there’s a specific SLA like Microsoft does for supporting Windows for 10 years after the final release for an OS.
It takes time to prepare and move to a different business model and move away from the marketplaces, who will want to do this will need weeks or months to do it, but Envato should prepare for this if that’s how they want to play
Although if you started 7 months ago, you’d be pretty far along now and nearly ready to go independent…
@ Leokoo — Final words
Just admit you want to create a cartel in order to raise prices for your benefit And everything else, is just an excuse.
Seriously? Envato is the cartel. They control all prices. I want every author to have individual pricing freedom for their products and business. It’s the opposite.
you mean the part where you raise the prices in order to gain the most out of the customer?
GD: Updates are much more valuable than support a year after purchase. If I’m going to charge customers beyond the initial purchase, I want to charge for what provides the most value to
It’s called capitalism. Money is traded for value. If you’re not maximizing that transaction’s value (for both sides) you’re missing an opportunity. I think Envato continues to miss an opportunity in charging for updates that creates sustainable production for authors and prevents abandonment for buyers. If a buyer doesn’t need an item’s updates they can stop supporting that item’s production. That’s how free markets work.
GravityDept saidYou mean, which hurts your income? I’ve already outlined the issue why themes get abandoned and the solution. You’re just looking for an excuse
Leokoo saidArguing the business model is flawed is not an excuse to raise prices. It means the business shuts down if the model doesn’t change. That’s what happens today whenever a theme (and all its buyers) are abandoned as soon as sales slow down. You’re fighting to keep the status quo which hurts everyone (authors, buyers, Envato).
Till then, just admit you’re just finding an excuse
Are you “winning” by repeating that excuse line over and over?
Buy a microeconomics textbook and grow up.
Till then, just admit you’re just finding an excuse
Arguing the business model is flawed is not an excuse to raise prices. It means the business shuts down if the model doesn’t change. That’s what happens today whenever a theme (and all its buyers) are abandoned as soon as sales slow down. You’re fighting to keep the status quo which hurts everyone (authors, buyers, Envato).
@ Leokoo — WooThemes offered “lifetime updates”...until they didn’t. The words don’t mean anything, but you’re treating it like you buy a solid gold 99-year licenses from other theme shops and you’re actually going to collect on them. It’s a fantasy.
Build some products and support them for years, then tell me what sustainable means. Maybe then you’ll have some perspective on why charging for updates (i.e. value) is good for everyone (authors, buyers, and Envato).