that’s what I’ve expected (subconsciously )
Knowing the options and choosing the right tool for the job. So I could ask for the best “tools” but this would lead to an endless discussion I guess.
I’m still interested in the opinions of others but it already helped to have a opinion on this.
Thanks for your reply.
I’m asking as a developer who creates templates for certain projects. I’m not an author on Themeforest, maybe someday, but not now.
Most of the time I work for agencies on custom client work. Those projects differ from each other in regards of content types, custom meta stuff and so on…i want to give the customer only what he really needs
I’ve once used a framework, Xtreme One, everything was fine until my customer ( the agency in this case) requested some changes to the template, which were not intended by the framework. It wasn’t supposed to work this way. That’s okay, i’m able to extend it to the requirements but it felt somehow..well, you know..hacking a working system, dirty so to speak.
In the end i felt like it would have been better if i did this project from scratch, because with all changes i made to the framework to fit the needs of the project, i guess it took much more time and the final product wasn’t as solid an clean as I wanted it to be.
I’ve never touched a framework since these days, but still keep wondering if it would be more “professional” or “efficient” to use a framework, especially one of those “mature” frameworks.
While writing thisI realize this sounds much more like a “developer crisis”.
But in the moment I won’t find the time to buy genesis or thesis and try it for myself, that’s why I ask you guys.
If a professional theme developer from themeforest says: “If you’re skilled enough to create your own ‘framework’” or “there is nothing a commercial framework could add to your skillset” well, than I keep going and ignore this stuff for some months again but maybe you say somethig like: “Using a commercial framework will give your business a boost in regards of time and efficiency, more happy customers, more money more everything”...well, maybe I will give it a try.
Damn really sounds like a crisis..
from time to time one of those popular WP frameworks like ‘Genesis’ or ‘Thesis’ grabs my attention, I look at their websites, google for some reviews, those reviews lead to other frameworks and so…in the end I close my browser and keep ignoring the existence of wp frameworks.
Today is such a day, but this time i thought I ask some people who may have some experience with frameworks for wordpress.
From a (Wordpress) developer point of view, is there any benifit from using a framework?
I’ve got the feeling that these frameworks are quiet good for certain projects, which fit into the framework structure but what if there are special requirements, custom post types, custom page-templates, custom meta boxes, custom whatever …? What if I don’t need certain functions and want to get rid of them..
Until now, I start every project from scratch, well, I have my collection of files and functions I often need, and I don’t feel like there is anything i couldn’t do with wordpress.
But maybe I’m missing something, and using a framework would add somethinng to my little developer universe.
I hope you guys know what I’m trying to say / ask. My english sucks when it comes to more “complex” stuff, so bare with me.
Hey vaynah & AnkaStudio
check your gmail account.
A well-designed theme won’t need a lot of options.
Well, I actually think it would be nice to keep a relation. As said, 30$ or 32$ doesn’t make THE difference, at least for me as a buyer, but 1$ for an item or 3$ somehow does make a, pychological, difference. Add just 1$ to everything under 10$ seems fair to me.2$ for everything between 10$ and 20$... and , i’d be ok with 3$ for everything over 30$. Envato is quite ‘cheap’, but has always good quality and i really like the idea of having just one account for all the different cool shit. It’s so damn easy to be a customer, and as a designer like me, it’s a great thing to have access to all this different cool stuff on the marketplaces with just one account…and to buy stuff in seconds!
And: for me as an author it’s quite natural to pay 1-2$ for the hard work. but that’s just me.
Anyone who’s complaining didn’t realize how cool Envato, and the whole idea, is. Let them moan.
Edit: I really wonder why most of this ‘complaining’ threads are started by Authors, as soon as they’ve realized they can earn money by selling stuff on the web. Everyone was urged to read and accept the agreement and knew how Envato works..and knew that things may change.
Happy Birthday Mark! Well deserved….;)
i think yes. I’ve bought the Simple Newsletter System and managed to include it in my custom sidebar just by include(‘newsletter.php’).