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Kiss_Collective says

I were a theme seller, I’d look for as many outlets as possible to sell my themes through. TF is nothing more than a directory – admittedly with strong traffic figures – so do like WooThemes and sell your stuff on your own site and here too and anywhere else you find.

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Kiss_Collective says

A little slow off the mark, but you got the idea in the end.

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Kiss_Collective says

@TheBuckMaker

Don’t despair and certainly don’t give up just because TF rejected your theme. This is not the be all and end all of WordPress design/development. Far from it.

In fact, I would encourage you to consider bypassing this market altogether and sell your themes on a solo basis. That way you don’t pay middle management fees, you can control the entire sales environment yourself, and you reap the double benefit of SEO & Web traffic that your theme will generate for your website – i.e. personal brand equity. That’s not something that you can maximise on if you sell solely via TF.

Anyway chances are, you might end up making more cash selling it solo than you would if it was accepted here.

The more alternatives and competition to TF there are, the better chance WordPress stands of maintaining its innovative nature.

Go forth and conquer, I for one salute you!

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Kiss_Collective says

Lest you rabid-tooth money-makers forget that the platform you make your dough with was founded on egalitarian principles, open source principles…

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Kiss_Collective says
thanks for clarifying!

No problem.

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Kiss_Collective says

It’s not illegal. As octofine rightly points out, TF have found a way of circumventing WP GPL to allow copyright over theme styles and non WP-specific function calls. Read the last few words of Mullenweg’s summation.

I remember a few years back when this was a huge issue with the emerging ‘premium theme’ market. TF wasn’t even around back then. There was real concern that the premium theme peddlers were encroaching on the core ethos of WordPress, raising concerns about the monetization of open source software in general.

Personally, I remember feeling profound dismay at the level of greed on display by some of the key premium theme players at the time. They had no respect for all the work that went into laying the open source framework, in fact they had little notion of ethical conduct at all. All they could see were big fat dollar signs.

Things have come a long way since then, and there’s more of a sense of balance. Deep down, part of me wishes that WordPress were able to put in place a legally binding clause that prohibited the commercialization of its extensions. I know 99% of forum users would disagree and say what about mah moneh!! What about mah bills!! What about mah ipad!! So it goes…

There was something noble and positively humanistic about the early days of WordPress. It really felt like a spirit of good in a Web of greed and exploitation, particularly after the dot com boom/bust era. That spirit of good lasted all of 10 minutes…but that’s all part of the modern economic imperative: live by the $ die by the $ but most of all, exploit someone else’s $$$

Still, it was good while it lasted.

Be grateful for your monies theme developers. And Envato, be grateful for your huge monies! Don’t get greedy, and don’t take people for granted, we’re humans not credit cards. ;)

peas n luv

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Kiss_Collective says
If the customer or teller do happen to say something to each other do you tell them hay you cant say that,this is not the place for chit chat? If it is somewhere I shop once a week then yes I talk with the teller.

Absolutely. Me too. In fact the only reason I’d go back to any place once a week is because I like/trust the people who hang out there. I want to know what the word on the street is. I want to interact with fellow human beings. I want to run some of my thoughts by other people, see if I’m right or wrong. I want to share stuff with people. I want the people I like to share stuff with me. I’m prepared to listen if other people will listen to me. I’m prepared for some banter on topics that I might not be 100% interested in, who knows I might actually learn something new that way. As ZonadeArte already said, it’s called COMMUNITY ! @Enabled…Guess what? Community exists on the Web too! Isn’t that crazy?! Even more crazy is that it’s been around since the late 70’s. Ever heard of a little thing called USENET ?

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Kiss_Collective says
Plan on releasing a minimal/grid based theme here pretty soon – preview

Ohh now that looks awesome. Can’t wait. Is that just the PSD or is it coded for WP?

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Kiss_Collective says
Pretty definite no I think. Status quo wins.

Not at all, some dope spent half an hour of his life deleting and refreshing cookies to trick the poll. He/she added over 100 ‘no’ votes. Before that the ratio was a steady 60/30 yes/no.

What I find disappointing in the whole affair is that not once did an Envato rep have something to say. A big thumbs down on that front. :(

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No one is trying to hide anything, just reduce the amount of silly comments often made people who have not bought the file and have no intention to do so.

Removing spam is one thing. Removing comments by real people on the grounds that you deem them ‘silly’ is entirely different. It supports the biased assumption that certain opinions or expressions should, by default, be erased. This is precisely why the leap was necessary.

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