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MBMedia says

The Windows users just couldn’t stay away even though this only has to do with Apple users. You didn’t really choose a Mac if you still use Windows so why even look and then better yet, reply to this thread? That’s how every thread turns into a Mac vs. PC argument.

I admit I haven’t read the whole thread, so maybe I missed some heated argument in the middle somewhere…but this actually seems like the most argumentative comment I’ve seen so far. Up til this I just saw a few people discussing differences pretty civil-like without any real problems, a couple IE9 bashes, a few jokes…thought everyone was doin pretty good actually…

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MBMedia says

I planned to write a post here, but I’ve decided against getting involved. Instead, I’ll leave you with a link to Microsoft’s latest IE9 commercial, for your entertainment. :) (Yes, this is an actual commercial) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DbgiOCTQts

Ya know, I actually believed that IE9 was ok until recently. Was building a CMS using HTML5 /AJAX…thought it would work great in all browsers. Bud-uh! Except IE9 . Apparently they didn’t implement some of the specs for traversing the dom/xml with javascript and the entire thing doesn’t work at all on it. But guess what did work? IE detection and a link to downloading google chrome ;) Glad IE9 can handle that much!

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^You take it to the extreme; I was talking about changing color :P .

And SEO with flash was always there from 2006 we just got to sloppy/lazy (cutting expanse) making it and now we try to bring it into the table in the name of SEO /mobile, my clients are not idiotic you know, i can’t sell them this in the name of mobile they are evolving also .

Fact is you look here not much change with flash tamp` you don’t see any stunning stuff with flash, just plain same flash site cos` no one that crazy working for a month and get 10 sells ,not to mention flash 3D no one work with it any more or try to step up .

You say people need to catch up? You are very optimistic; i wish i thought the same but like many there is just less and less flash work and even if I love the book Don Quijote de la Mancha I am far away from that man fighting against wind turbine ……

Yeah, the SEO was always there, but I didn’t use it either unless people asked for it :P The mobile issue is just so much more public and important to clients in my mind.

But I don’t get why you can’t sell that to your clients. I mean, if the site you are developing is better done in HTML , then by all means do it that way, I build HTML sites for clients too when it’s best that way. But if the site would look/function better in flash then telling your clients you can also make that flash mobile friendly is a HUGE selling point in my experience. I’m not saying use it as an excuse to use flash where it’s not beneficial, I’m saying use it as a way to not have to throw away flash even when it is beneficial, because that’s what I see happening a lot. And I’ve had lots of success with clients being happy with flash in that situation.

I’m also not saying that the old days of microstock will come back. XML templates thrived because even though flash was a specialty tool that was never intended to dominate the web, editing HTML templates was much harder, so XML was the easy microstock alternative and flash dominated XML . Now with wordpress that advantage is negated and flash is settling back to being a specialty tool.

I agree that the microstock slice of the market for flash templates should be the smaller slice by far, but I also think that the dip we are seeing is ENORMOUSLY more than it would be if we all worked towards mobile friendly sites, and especially if more of us worked towards content managed sites. Flash is still the specialty minority tool, not the market dominator, I’m not trying to make it dominate, but I don’t think there’s any reason for the flash template microstock world to obliterate either, it has it’s place as long as we keep up with new demands. :)

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MBMedia says

All the best design software is for Macs, what I get on Windows is second-hand.

I hear this all the time, but can someone explain it to me. I’ve worked at places where I was on a mac, and at places where I was on a PC. Photoshop was still photoshop, fireworks was still fireworks, illustrator, etc.

To be clear I’m not trying to troll…I’m honestly curious because I’ve just never seen the huge difference, and I’m curious what details about this people bring up. I really don’t give a crap which desktop you use :)

I’ve heard some people say that it’s because of the keyboard shortcuts making it quicker, but that’s ridiculous because Win has similar shortcuts available within those programs just with the differing keys on their keyboard.

I’ve heard others say it’s the gamma. This I sorta understand, because I do see that the mac screen gamma more closely represents the end result of a print piece once printed. But for on-screen/online work it’s the exact opposite, the gamma on Win more closely represents the gamma that 95% of your viewers will be seeing, because most of them will be on windows. And oddly enough I’ve even noticed that the colors on my iPod screen for a project I put online seem to more closely match the colors on my windows gamma screen than on the macs I check on…though I’ve always found that weird as hang, maybe newer iOS devices aren’t that way.

Can anyone shed more light on this particular reason for preference for me?

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MBMedia says


And no, I won’t shut-up until I put myself out of business by making sure every other AD author makes mobile friendly stuff so that mine isn’t even special any more!
What’s that friendly issue about? All we do is add HTML mockup into our flash website in the name of SEO issue, in the flash glory days we didn’t give crap about this issue(as evidence the option of SEO was there from day 1) … the dream 1 flash to all media will never happened + very limited buyer will want to involve them self with 2 technology, I mean those ordinary buyer can’t do minimal HTML modification so they go easy with WP cos it’s much more easy do modify..

They don’t have to modify it :) My buyers don’t have to write a lick of HTML code, the template uses the XML for that as well.

Now I’ve even got a full CMS for them that installs with zero database setup or anything, just upload and log-in. Right now my latest template is easier to install and start editing than wordpress is.

And I don’t say that blindly either, at one point I was the #2 highest selling author on the only theme marketplace that really competes even close at all with TF (pretty sure I can’t mention names in forum though…), and one of my themes over there as been on the top seller list for 24 weeks. I’m not speaking of techs I don’t know or use, and right now my latest flash template is easier and requires less pre-assumed knowledge to set up and use than any wordpress theme I’ve ever made :) Is that for everyone? No. WordPress has it’s place, and it’s a bigger slice of the market than flash. But that doesn’t mean flash’s slice is gone, just means people need to catch up with the newer standards of ease/accessibility that buyers expect :)

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MBMedia says

Flash can be mobile friendly? How does that work… For iphones and stuff.

A bit of PHP code loads in the XML files you use for the flash pages and prints out some basic simplified HTML of the images/videos/text. Either write an .htaccess file to make various mobile links point back to one page of PHP code that outputs the correct page info, or just duplicate the same PHP file for each page and make it detect it’s page url and output the right page data. Automatically makes it SEO friendly too. All my recent templates use this system to work on iPhones, etc, and in fact they were all also designed to be stripped down to nothing and extended for actual flash devs that want to just use them as a framework to build completely custom sites off of.

I’ve found clients prefer it to html sites with responsive design even, because it completely separates the two types of devices (desktops with mouse and keyboard, mobile with touch). So each version is well optimized for each type of interaction. Yeah, you can detect devices and change the interaction on an HTML site too…but few actually do, they usually just change the layout down to 1 column and call it a day. With this it’s automatic that the layout/interaction for desktops and mobiles are 100% separated, so there’s a tendency for each to be very optimized for its intended usage, no give/take so that somethiing works ok on both types, each version works wonderful for it’s intended devices.

It’s a bit daunting at first to think about writing a system that does that, but writing a PHP /JS framework that makes it quick and reproducable for my client flash sites took me about 2 weeks of research and development, and now if I have a month long flash project, it takes me maybe a couple extra days to have it fully mobile friendly. And you’d be surprised how worth it to clients that couple extra days is!

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MBMedia says

HTML5 /jQuery/CSS3 knocks the socks off of flash 7, approaches and is possibly equal to flash 8, but I have tons of flash 9 content that there’s no way I could duplicate in HTML5 , nevertheless flash 10/11 content! I build HTML5 /jQuery stuff (and even wordpress themes!) regularly and I can tell you that while it’s extremely useful…there’s NO WAY I could match any of my really nice flash client work with it, the graphics rendering just isn’t powerful enough, and not all of the capabilities are there.

BUT : Everyone that doesn’t learn to make their flash stuff mobile friendly is of course gonna go obsolete from the website world because of that, and from their perspective it’ll seem like the flash website world is ending (because it is for them…). Flash isn’t dead, but it is changed because of the mobile necessity! I had flash mobile friendly website freelance work yesterday that I got paid for, I have more today that I’ll be paid for, and I have an email for more that I haven’t had time to respond to yet. Keep up, get a name as someone who’s flash is mobile friendly…it puts you ahead of the masses and makes you the first choice for flash work :)

And no, I won’t shut-up until I put myself out of business by making sure every other AD author makes mobile friendly stuff so that mine isn’t even special any more!

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MBMedia says

While doing some stage3D learning I came across this sentence on the adobe website, and about poo’d myself: “To compare the numbers, using hardware acceleration it’s not uncommon to render scenes that contain more than a million of triangles.”

EDIT : adding this in, was doing more research on the unreal engine, and that demo link in the original post on this thread, with the citadel….was apparently designed for mobiles…and the unreal people referred to it as “setting expectations too low”. So they ported a full level of Unreal Tournament 3, and said it looked better in flash than the version they shipped for xbox 360 and playstation 3: http://www.unrealengine.com/insiderblog/unreal_engine_3_comes_to_flash

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MBMedia says

Not even most modern browsers like Chrome support webcam streams, which means it’ll be quite a long time before it’s cross-browser enough to be usable, right now opera is the only one I know that really does.

The best thing to do is sit down with the client and talk about end requirements, rather than platforms. For example, get them thinking in terms of “It has to work on mobiles” rather than “It has to be HTML5 ”, because those two things don’t always go hand in hand (ex: my flash templates work on my ipod, but an HTML5 site I tried to use last weekend didn’t because it was too advanced for it, but clients don’t know that kind of stuff! So you gotta get them talking deeper about what they need!).

Once you get actual product goals from them that’s when you can help them figure out what the best approach to their project is. In this case I’m betting that the main goal of saying “It must be HTML5 ” is to have it work on mobiles. HTML5 camera support is horrid right now and isn’t progressing very fast…basically it’s not gonna happen unless they have a captive audience which can all be forced to use opera, and even then the program is gonna be pretty limited. So a great alternative to suggest is building your project in flash, also modifying/compiling a version of it to android/ios apps, and then using an HTML backup on the flash page to point users to the app so that mobiles aren’t left out :) Of course every project is different, maybe that doesn’t work at all, but the point I’m trying to make is that once you understand their needs you can suggest ways to meet them regardless of platform!

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MBMedia says

You guys have sent in Support tickets, right?

It’s not my files (I started hosting all my own previews years ago) I’m just sick of seeing it everywhere :)

But I do know of multiple people that have sent support tickets for their files specific about this, and it has been in multiple forum threads over the last couple months, at least one of which I know had envato staff as part of the conversation (this thread from 2 months ago is a good example).

But the “submit a support ticket” idea may be part of the problem, it seems that this enormous bug in the marketplace itself is being treated as a case by case bug with certain previews…it’s not…it’s definitely marketplace wide :)

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