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Right now, the entire pricing structure is way below the market price of WordPress themes.

All themes should go up and priced better along with multi-purpose themes going to a higher price point than niche and focused themes.

So a big +1 to this. We seriously don’t get the $1 price raise across the board. That is a very conservative test and the data gathered after this change might not really prove anything.

A big +1 to ThemeFusion. ;) It’s really too soon to talk about results, but we share that a $1 change might not make such a difference with the WP templates. Maybe $1 is fine for the cheaper items or plugins, where the increase percentage is bigger, but increasing from $58 to $59 it might not prove anything (it’s an increase of less than 2%).



+1 – it’s about time for a change. Let’s try and make this the most +1 replied to thread in the history of Envato please everyone. See if we can eventually get noticed.

I’m not sure why you think that we haven’t noticed or recorded your feedback on this issue? It’s not possible to reply to every single request with a comment that we’ve seen it, but please be assured that we are well aware of almost every issue that has been brought up on the forums, including this one.

There may be plenty of reasons that we haven’t introduced a feature or made a change, and we think and plan out every one that we do, particularly ones that have a huge market impact like price changes.

I can understand some of the frustration, but please don’t try and paint us with a brush that we never listen. We have to constantly think about both sides of our market, and yes that means sometimes we have to do things that favour buyers over authors. But that certainly doesn’t mean we’re not listening or haven’t thought about, discussed and researched things before hand.

Thanks!

With all due respect, if this was true, then this thread would have never seen the light of day. How can we tell if Envato is listening if they don’t reply our concerns or questions. There’s only one reply from the Envato Team in 15 pages of the Item Price Changes topic!. And we are still waiting for an answer to our question on the “Get ready for the new item support…” one.

Of all the other issues that were discussed a million times before, (like the flawed rating system, for which every week we have one or two new topics about unfair or abusive ratings and nothing has changed since), Envato is trying to roll out a support system which 98% of authors and buyers are against of. And let’s remeber how the community went up in arms with the first re-design of badges, the VAT discussions, and the design changes by chunks around the site. Those are some of the reasons why the community has that impression.

Also, let’s not fool ourselves, sales at Envato are not what they used to be, that’s why authors and buyers are so vocal when trying to propose/suggest new things to improve the community as a whole.

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The support value of a $48 wordpress theme should be the same as a $58 one! They are both the same kind of support, wordpress support! An author with both items will be selling his time for two different rates! It’s ridiculous!
That doesn’t make sense to me. Isn’t the Envato imposed pricing level based on functionality, so for example, a theme that supports WooCommerce or BuddyPress, is worth more than one that doesn’t? Therefore, isn’t the support burden similarly increased, at least theoretically? What’s not clear is why they think THEY deserve more.

Well, right now we have multipurpose themes that are priced the same as niche ones, you can read a little more here: http://graphicriver.net/forums/thread/envato-market-price-changes-/188973?page=11

The support burden does not depend on the theme, but on the buyer. If a buyer asks basic WP support questions on both $48 and $58 items, both authors will be answering the same thing for a different price.

The same thing goes for wordpress plugins, for example, for a $16 plugin, the 6 extra month of support will be $4.8 (30% of item price). Minus the envato “cut” (30%) = $3.36. Do you really belive that $3.36 is a fair price for 6 months of support?

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You still don’t tell us ALL THE CHANGES, for example, we see that you DECREASED all business cards by $1. Please list all the pricing changes so we can act accordingly.
Not rocket science, I don’t think. Business cards get very few sales, this way they might get a few more. They were selling probably 10 times more when the price was set to $6 years ago.

We think you misunderstood us, we are not asking for explanations about the business cards (it was just an example) we said it would be nice for them to list all the changes and what categories they affect so everyone can act accordingly. There are lots of authors who advertise the items with the price on the preview images and need to change that to avoid confusion among the buyers.

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Hi everyone,

Thanks for your feedback so far!

I wanted to just clarify that the price change for PHP Scripts was indeed intentional. There were many factors involved in making this decision, including the observation that buyers in this category tend to be fairly price sensitive.

We are hopeful that the change in this category will result in increased sales, and increased earnings overall.

We will be monitoring the effects of the price changes very closely over the coming weeks to ensure that things are going the way they should be.

Thanks again for your support!

You still don’t tell us ALL THE CHANGES, for example, we see that you DECREASED all business cards by $1. Please list all the pricing changes so we can act accordingly.

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Could we be a little more transparent and provide a few more details please?

The article in the knowledge base also isn’t helpful in giving more details.

Can we just say Themes with X stay the same, Themes with Y increased $3 or whatever?

+1

We’ve looked at our items, and at first glance, they all remain unchnaged. It would be helpful to know a little more, if it’s for some categories, specific items, etc…

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@andrewfreeman

Can you tell us why the pricing of support is tied to the item price? Don’t you think that time, no matter what item is it, should be priced the same?

The support value of a $48 wordpress theme should be the same as a $58 one! They are both the same kind of support, wordpress support! An author with both items will be selling his time for two different rates! It’s ridiculous!

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yes there is already a thread or a blog post i think where all popular websites are linked which uses themeforest templates.

Hi! can you leave us the link to that thread? we’ve searched but we found nothing!


In my theme’s description, I’m showing a list of made-with-my-theme showcase :D I picked them from our customers’ sites :)

That’s a great showcase leafcolor!! ;)

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We’ve sent you a message through your profile page! ;)

Cheers!

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I agree with billyf, maybe you can reach out to more authors if you have a little wiggle room for the sharing.

Anyway, good luck!

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Hi! We have items on both Themeforest and Graphicriver, and we love when our GR customers send us pictures of the final results when they use our flyer or logo templates for their products. For example, we had a customer who bought our Happy Donut logo and sent us pictures of her shop and packaging items with the logo on them!
There’s already a thread in GR about items spotted around the world, so we thought, why not do the same with Themeforest?

Have you seen any live websites that made you think “this is a TF template!”? Do you wanna show your theme customization live results? Haven’t you ever wandered for what kind of sites they used your templates? Some theme tranformations are truly amazing!

Post your websites here! ;)

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