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PhilLarson
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One problem could be that you’re unaware that you can use 30 keywords when tagging your songs… Look like your using around half of that. You should use up all 30. That’ll help your search results.

Good luck!

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For all my fellow drummers out there, RIP Robert Zildjian, founder of Sabian Cymbals. You read that right. Turns out I was ignorant on this subject (and I feel pretty dumb about it). Robert left Zildjian Cymbals to form Sabian Cymbals to rival his brother Armand after their father passed down the company secrets to both of them, instead of just the older brother (Armand) as the tradition had been conducted in the Zildjian family for hundreds of years. Sabian is named after Robert’s 3 kids: Sally, Bill, and Andy. Talk about a legacy the Zildjian family has left! And I use both Sabian and Zildjian cymbals. Possibly more interesting to us drummers, but it’s definitely not bad to learn about different aspects of the music industry and their roots. Rest in peace.

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I, too, leave a little something… usually just a smiley face or a winky face. I’m rather partial to the winky face. Occasionally, I try to show my appreciation to them by thanking them. Imagine just going through submission after submission after submission…. then a simple “Thank you for what you do!” probably is a nice little surprise…. and then… REJECTION! ;) (<—See what I did there? Winky. I’m addicted. I need help) ;)

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...it’s late. Sorry. G’night! ( ;) )

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PhilLarson
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Oh can we do that – upload an MP3 PREVIEW + a WAV and MP3 version of the main file?

You just have to compress all files to a zip file and upload that as you main audio file.

I recommend providing both MP3 and WAV files for each song. Real easy to do and you’re providing a little something extra for your buyer!

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All good thoughts here, people. Keep ‘em coming! :)

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You’ve got incredible momentum right now, Brandon! Great work. I hear you’re in a bundle soon too… ;) ...and I think that’ll just add to this momentum. BRANDON IS ON A ROLL!

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Gareth, we’re in agreement on a lot of things. I sometimes have a tendency to speak in absolutes and be at times over-optimitic and sometimes give people the benefit of the doubt to a fault. So I appreciate you and randomnoise pointing some of that out. Lesson learned: My experience with Envato has been good, but that doesn’t necessarily mean everyone else’s has. It’s good to hear some unique perspective from a long-time experienced author like yourself, Gareth. Thanks for sharing.

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What I don’t get is that AJ authors in general just seem to accept this situation. Sentences like “I’m a full believer that Envato owes us nothing.” make me scratch my head. I don’t understand this perspective at all. From my point of view this is a mutual enterprise here between envato and the authors. If they want us to stay in the long run and continue to put out high quality tracks they should hold their end of the bargain. The new search is overdue.

We believe the same things. I suppose I could have used better language. What I mean is that there are plenty of marketplace like this that are successful and they don’t give any attention to their authors. They merely provide them a marketplace to sell on. As a business, typically the business is looking out for themselves. How can they earn a profit. How can they remain afloat. Judging success by this definition only requires them to provide a marketplace that offers consistent sales. Outside of the Envato, as a business, owes us nothing else. However, Envato has offered more. They go above and beyond, though I too believe some things, like the new search functions, are overdo.

The truth is that they know it is overdue too. At the Envato meetup I went to (July 2012), a staff member mentioned that he thought it should be implemented soon. That I should watch 3DOcean because that would be the 1st marketplace they test it on and the other ones would be soon to follow. As they haven’t yet, there is probably a good explanation that goes beyond our understanding as we are not staff. This is not to say that it isn’t still overdue. Other similar marketplaces have better search functions than AudioJungle. But I’m sure, at least I hope, they’re working on it.

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(The following is just to provoke discussion. It is by no means for bashing. Don’t let it go there. But I do think this is a discussion that I think us authors and staff need to have together, as we grow together. I’m a full believer that Envato owes us nothing. The way they listen to their authors and interact with them is not seen like this anywhere else. That’s a part of what makes this community so great and why moral among authors is generally high. We feel heard.)

When I joined in December 2011, I want to say that I think there were around 35,000 items on AudioJungle. Someone correct me if I’m wrong.

Now, indeed, we have seen great growth in buyers… but have we seen even greater growth in authors (item submissions, in particular)? What if we keep on this trend and by the end of 2013, there are close to 200,000 items? Now, I believe in Envato and I believe they are smart, so I believe they have some plans for this kind of growth (of course more submissions may not hurt Envato or the buyers, other than more time searching through the jungle. Maybe more submission just hurt the authors that aren’t quite top authors. So maybe there is no plan for this kind of growth…? They don’t owe us a plan.).

Do approval standards for submission quality need increased? About a year ago, when I was researching other marketplaces after being here a short amount of time, for one marketplace you had to submit 3 clips of some of your work before you were even allowed to submit your first song for review. You as a composer had to pass review before any of your music could be reviewed. I never heard back from that marketplace. I’m a better composer now than I was then but I submitted 30-sec clips of 3 songs that were already approved on AudioJungle. Since I was never accepted as an author and began to see some more success here, I decided to stay. Looking back now, I believe some of my earlier stuff should have probably never been approved on AudioJungle. I personally think composition and recording quality standards need increased (some items are recorded and mixed well… but the composition is a shuffled drum beat over a straight-metered melody in the background.)

Does submission quantity need capped (I’m not really talking about the sound fx guys, by the way. They are not in competition with the music community and have buyers who are looking for a large volume of items)? This may not seem like a huge deal now, but we have seen new reviewers be hired recently to help with the influx of items, which means shorter wait times, which is what a lot of authors seem to want these days, especially new ones starting out. I would personally prefer longer wait times if it meant less items to be lost in. People who are in the “get rich quick” mindset will submit an item, see the 30 day wait time and probably leave that mindset quick. Maybe I’m wrong.

As we have all heard, AudioJungle is a marathon, not a sprint. If you are flooding the marketplace with a large quantity of music, they better be amazing and completely original. There are some authors out there with 300-400+ song items that only have about that many sales. This may work on other sites, I don’t know, but starting out with a ton of submission definitely doesn’t seem to work on AudioJungle. Buyers pick authors and seem to be rather loyal to those who submit consistent, high-quality work, but not in bulk where they don’t even know where to start.

Just some food for thought.

What do you guys think? Keep it nice and positive. We all want growth and more submissions are a part of it. Maybe there is nothing wrong at this point and I’m thinking too much into it. I’m always willing to be corrected, so please do if I need to be. Thanks!

Phil

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I always name my previews like this: ‘Song Name (preview)’. It doesn’t make any sense to name a preview ‘preview’, how confusing haha
That doesn’t matter. The site changes all of them to “preview.mp3” unfortunately. Which is really strange.

+1 This is really true. Download one of your previews, SoundFix. You’ll see.

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