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RobertBlueMusic says

Maybe one suggestion: The Black Keys?
+1

not exactly the same, but a similar style. :)

You play all the instruments and the voice?

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RobertBlueMusic says


pd- I totally agree to change things and allow audiojungle users to registered his audiojungle tracks with PRO.

So Robert, I’m glad we agree that authors shouldn’t be persecuted for being PRO-registered nor that we should be seeking to ‘shoot down’ fellow composers for demanding their right to royalties. If we start doing that, we’d be doing a great job of damaging this industry even further. No more nails are needed in this coffin.

As for exclusive authors selling elsewhere, yes, I agree that isn’t great, especially for those of us respecting the rules.

With this thread, I wanted to make it clear…...makes no sense to continue sticking to a rule when in fact you don’t have the tools to enforce…........of course authors shouldn’t be persecuted for being PRO-registered, if you read my last postings, you can see what is my opinion about the PRO,the pricing for TV…......

If you have rules that you can not meet and the solution is, the authors are responsible for reporting this kind of things…..... be honest and remove the PRO, and the exclusivity rules…this is what I really wanted to say

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RobertBlueMusic says


I do not think I can register with ASCAP.

Well, it seems that non americans can indeed register with those. Though initial process is a bit more complex, you have to fill out more forms, regarding US tax exemption.

I’m not saying it is the ideal solution, but maybe something worth looking into, for those of us who struggle with our abusive PRO such as SGEA, GEMA, SACEM,...

Correct.

@Allegro you can regiter with ASCAP as non Us citizen, but you need to send physical mail with additional information.

You can see all the information on the website, in the FAQ section.

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RobertBlueMusic says


many of the (exclusive or non exclusive) authors here , are selling the same tracks on other sites, and when you take a look in the information of the songs you can see “registered by a Pro”. Not allowed.

People will need to practice caution with this and not make too many assumptions, if opting to go on an author reporting mission. It’s correct that it’s currently not allowed to upload PRO registered tracks to AJ, but PRO registered composers can still submit here (to my knowledge, at least).

One big problem with many other marketplaces is that it will suggest that individual tracks are PRO registered by default, when in fact this is incorrect. It’s the composer that is registered with the PRO, and not the tracks themselves set up for collecting royalties. That’s a big difference in this situation.

I’m currently in the process of trying to clear up a right dog’s dinner with this issue myself.

I personally have been able to make that mistake when I saw some tracks ””registered by a Pro” and as you said ” suggest that individual tracks are PRO registered by default, when in fact this is incorrect”, but I think you understand that after being tired of see many exclusivity violations…. and you see that “incorrect information” (Now I know it’s wrong because you’ve explained), you begin to think that everybody is doing “bad” things.

There is nothing wrong with explaining things who asks you when you are doing things right, I am the creator-director of an electronic music label and I give all kinds of explanations to everyone about similar things, I know it’s tedious, but if everything is correct, for me is a pleasure, sure you never going to be questioned again.

pd- I totally agree to change things and allow audiojungle users to registered his audiojungle tracks with PRO.

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RobertBlueMusic says


- many of the authors who sell their music here exclusively, are selling the same songs on other sites. exclusivity violation.

Hey Robert,

This really ticks me off because when I made the switch to exclusive a few weeks ago, I went thru the process of deleting all my tracks from the other sites. (10 or so different sites) It went well except one site (name unmentionable) that I’ve emailed like 10 times to remove the 1 track they have but can’t get any feedback from them.

If anybody has a solution to deleting tracks from a site like that won’t respond to my requests please let me know. My track is smack dap on their front page and they won’t take it down.

So, seeing other AJ authors enjoying the 50%+ revenue while breaking the rules is not cool. I know the same old BS about “open a support ticket” but c’mon now. It’s not OUR site so why are we expected to police it?

Forgive any typos, I’m writing this on my iPhone while traveling

I don’t know how to delete that song, if you follow the “rules” you can’t have that song here… srry about that… but to be honest is not a problem you can do it! many people do that and there are no consequences.

About the support ticket: lately I’ve notified 2 authors, for breaking the rules of exclusivity. I know I know is not my work is not my job but I just wanted to see what happened (with links to the tracks here and links to the same tracks on other RF sites, nice descriptions , etc…). After 30 days….... one of the reported authors just change his tracks to private hahahaha is like “ok ok I´m going to change my tracks to private and no one can see them” the link still exists but now privately… yeah!

The other one …... He has done nothing! now you can see the same songs here and in the other RF sites.

@Ralf , lol just like matrix, you can do everything you want. I don´t know why you still with non-exclusive account… just change to exclusive nothing happens ;)

Honestly is not that hard to see these things, you don’t need to be a hacker or a computer genius, this makes me think….. envato simply doesn’t care about these things.

If you can not keep your own rules, after months and years, these things still happening and u don’t do anything about it…....Envato, Why you still having these (fictitious) rules?

why not a group of people working on this, doing searches and checking this? but not now, several years ago….....

this makes no sense, we have rules, but we do nothing to enforce them…..... after many notifications and more notifications of authors, we will not do anything…..... We’re working on it….....years and years working on it…. Can you answer this honestly?

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RobertBlueMusic says

I don’t have any tracks that are registered with a PRO here because of this ridiculous policy, but I think AJ’s legal team need to look into whether it’s actually legit for them to require music not be registered with a PRO considering they’re trading in an international marketplace. My understanding is that certain countries require by law that you collect royalties if you’re registered with a PRO. It’s a crazy way to deprive composers of earning from something that really does not affect the consumer as Zineb_Chraibi has mentioned so many times. It’s been a lifeline for many composers (myself included) and now we’re struggling more than ever to earn from our music. Robert, it sounds like you’re investigating other authors here, why would you do that? Do you support this type of policy?

Hello piano.

1 month ago I started to sell my songs on other sites, I quickly realized that there are many AJ authors who also sell their songs on other sites, and what was my surprise????

- many of the authors who sell their music here exclusively, are selling the same songs on other sites. exclusivity violation

- many of the (exclusive or non exclusive) authors here , are selling the same tracks on other sites, and when you take a look in the information of the songs you can see “registered by a Pro”. Not allowed.

I have not investigated author by author (lol that would take a long time), but after 3 years here I recognize active forum members , his avatar and his name, they use the same sub-name, same avatar and even the same name of the songs in the other royalty free sites, so is not investigation is just 3 or 4 clicks…......is funny to see some exclusive authors in the forum posting things like “Thanks Audiojungle, best community here” “I hit The 500 sales, thanks Audiojungle” and this same authors are selling the same items on other sites hahahaha really funny…..

About your question Do you support this type of policy? I agree to make changes for the musicians in Audiojungle (PRO royalties, tv licenses….) but…. this is Audiojungle and we have to accept their rules and conditions…....... but…... wait a moment….. these rules are constantly being broken by many users…....and after the post called “Exclusivity” started by Audioquattro seems that nothing has changed. Very complicated.

please don´t think that I´m like a crazy guy searching for exclusive authors in other marketplaces. I just was looking and I found evident examples…. nothing more.I think AJ should do this kind of investigations, but ….................................................................

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RobertBlueMusic says
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RobertBlueMusic says

Ok, thanks.

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RobertBlueMusic says

We are now allowed to sell Pro registered music (Prs,Ascap,Bmi) music on AudioJungle????

Lately I see many pro registered tracks on Audiojungle , maybe I missed something???

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RobertBlueMusic says


No one is forcing us to sell our music here” and I ´m sincerely agree with those words, you must say thanks envato thanks for letting me sell my songs in your market.
Sorry, but no…no never.. this attitude leads us back to the 18th century when workers had to be thankful to have a job at all and no right to complain. We are the ones who create the content. If we have to be thankful, Envato has to be thankful in equal measure. I agree, when you say, that there is no need to bash against Envato. But I don’t agree when you say, we have to be thankful and have no right to criticise things we don’t like and take everything as it is instead. It’s a cultural achievement in the civilised world that those who do the work have a voice.We are trade partners with Envato, but we are not subjects.

Totally agree, perhaps you have not understood the ironic tone of my last words…. ;) but you have to understand that it is their business model and after 3 years reading some suggestions with no results, IMO nothing will change here.

As Tim said “There is a way to go about bringing positive change to the marketplaces, and from experience I can tell you that you are going to only end up frustrating yourself with how you are approaching things.”

In my case this is not the main source of my income, so I don’t really care if I sell a lot or not but if you want to living from the royalty free music, maybe you can try to check other ways to sell your music, other ways to approaching things.

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