AlumoAudio I completely agree that in this day in age social media is a big deal if used right. Im not saying to abandon twitter, just isn’t working for me at this stage. I would like to build a nice buyer base of followers at some point where it would be more effective when I send out a tweet notification of a new release.
Also your right the spam tweeting is out of control, and when doing person to person sales its always important to build a relationship with your potential buyers thats why tweeting things other then promos is good. Tim does a good job balancing between promo’s, personal info, and things like inspirational quotes. (sorry to keep using tim as Ex. but lets face it he has mastered the promo game)
AlumoAudio I don’t see a referral badge, are you using referral links on your tweets, if not try it, it would help you see if the tweets were working.
. I’m not trying to be negative and I believe in promotion but promotion that is efficient is key. If you guys have had success with twitter, I would love to hear.I have personally seen the clickthroughs on my account rocket every time I “tweet”... As to whether it has helped with sales… I am not so sure. I am conscious of spamming, but am looking for different ways to promote. I sometimes throw in what I believe to be an interesting thing I read on tinternet…. Which, I think helps with variation.
I saw click throughs as well when I used referral type link but then I noticed as soon as I posted the link and with a tweet I got like 3 click throughs on audiojungle instantly. I thought wow this is great, jackpot, to easy. Then I started testing it and it seems as though every time you post a tweet with a link some automated process by twitter takes place instantly giving you like 3 (not real human) click throughs. I did it over and over till I ruled out any real human action.
If you put your link through a url shortener like Bitly or google you can see real stats if anyone is clicking. I saw zero results.
I don’t have many followers so for me it doesn’t work because people are obviously not searching for royalty free music through twitter or at least not when I tweet. The hash mark tags which are meant for search purposes have not been effective, maybe for others but not me.
It works well like I mentioned if you are Tim M. or Soundroll and have a ton of followers strictly because of your music and they are past and current buyers not just musician friends.
Im not denying what you posted, if it works for you great, I just thought you should know some of the click throughs you see might not be real.
Another note on the twitter thing, i’ve noticed more & more complaints against AJers spamming hashtags and such with some people even choosing to employ filters against “envato” &/or “audiojungle”. Things can only go on so long before someone gets annoyed by it and it’s considered spam/offensive. Just look at the whole VH vs. AJ forum promotion thing for example which was welcomed before but now is frowned upon. This can & probably will eventually apply to all sorts of promotion AJ authors choose to employ. Just something to be mindful of. There’s a very thin line when it comes to this stuff and spam and the line is becoming thinner and thinner with each new author.
Yup, pretty embarrassing.
My 2 cents:Sophonic said
I used good keyword and hashtags and nothing ever.
The problem is when you don’t have at least a little group of followers that genuinely follows you, you know? Like, they are genuinely interested in what you tweet. If you have that, then the word-of-mouth magic will start to happen, even if it doesn’t immediately and directly translate to sales.
If your only reason to use Twitter is to plug your new AJ tracks, then Twitter will only ever be a personal SEO tool for you, IMO . Which isn’t good or bad per se. It simply depends on the utility that gives you (as you say, efficiency is probably what matters the most).
Yup this is why I said that giants like Tim M. who get so many sales that they gain a lot of twitter(fans) followers just for their music, most guys on here add each other, which is cool but doesn’t do much for sales.
Sophonic saidis a good reason to tweet your stuff. More presence in google’s search results.
Google is where people search for that…
- SOPHONIC SAYS Your tweets do not show up in google results, maybe if you had a website link attached to it it my help your sites seo rankings.
RedGiantSays:(PS: So far I have 0 sales so I’m obviously not very good at AJ’ing, but here I’m talking from experience as a web developer who’s had to deal with improving websites’ web presence, SEO and such)SOPHONIC SAYS Hang in there the sales will come, your track “After Midnight” is cool http://audiojungle.net/item/after-midnight/2331857?WT.ac=portfolio_item&WT.seg_1=portfolio_item&WT.z_author=TheRedGiant
Sorry for anyone reading this dribble but I totally messed up the quote and reply and I have no idea what im doing with it which is obvious.
I have found the twitter thing to be absolutely useless in my case. I put a few links that I could track on a link shortener and I saw the stats after my tweets and nothing. I used good keyword and hashtags and nothing ever. I really don’t think anyone is on twitter searching for their background music, and if there is its a very small amount. Google, Bing & royalty free music sites is where people search for that or even youtube.
If overtime you can gain a lot of previous A.J. buyers that might join your twitter(hasn’t happened once for me) it might then work. Somebody like Tim M. who is on a different level can really utilize his twitter account. Seems like almost everyone else is just spamming their co-authors and friends with promos for their newest track.
I guess keep plugging away even if you get one sale from the promo its better than no sales but for me time allocation is important, I have things in my life that take priority like family, work, make music.
I’m not trying to be negative and I believe in promotion but promotion that is efficient is key. If you guys have had success with twitter, I would love to hear.
Phil I noticed that almost all followers, at least that I get are just other audiojungle authors. Not sure how this helps with sales. Unless maybe someone that is shopping on someone else’s profile happens to look at the bottom of their profile page and then goes to your page, but I doubt that happens very much.
MagnetStudios saidI get the feeling that some audiojungle authors come off desperate to them sometimes. Maybe its better to just create good music and hope one day you get asked to collaborate. Read This: http://audiojungle.net/forums/thread/videohive-dont-want-to-see-audiojungle-authors-at-their-forum/63245 Tim makes a good point on his post.
Okay so I have a you tube channel, a blog, a twitter page and a FB page, so my next job is to liaise with videohive authors. My problem is, what the hell do you say to them, “I like your videos, I have some music which may suit some of them? I give you permission to use my preview tracks in your work?” Searching around videohive I have yet to come across an author who hasn’t got music on their stuff.
I didn’t get a lot of sales my feature week either, I think it was like 3. I also don’t have a big portfolio so maybe that was reason. I think the fact that featured artist of the week goes at the bottom of the homepage might be why it gets overlooked.
Still very appreciative for the recognition from audiojungle staff. Best place for spotlight is featured item which is at top of page or better yet top seller list and high up on it.
Hey Bugakov, depending on what computer you use you probably need a video editor. I use Mac and use Imovie. Its very simple to make a video with your watermarked music and Imovie exports it to your youtube account with 1 click of the button.
Thanks Phil, I was actually wondering the other day if you had to wait for review if you changed thumbnail image.