Posts by Studio164a

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Studio164a says
Hi everyone, Just letting you know that commission payments will occur on Monday the 17th of February due to the 15th falling on a Saturday in Australia.

No complaints about this, but doesn’t the 15th fall on a Saturday everywhere?

;)

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Studio164a says

Ok. That’s certainly an understandable position. However, I choose to interpret the spirit of the words / rules differently regardless of the pure literal definitions. If one were to look in nearly any thesaurus and you’ll find that the word “technicality” is a synonym for “loophole”, “escape clause”, etc. Life’s too short to worry about such ridiculous technicalities in my view. If I wanted to do that, I would have become a lawyer. LOL.

1. You CAN sell any item that’s not a derivative work of an already existing approved exclusive item from your own account on other sites.

2. You CANNOT sell derivative items of an already approved / for sale exclusive item from your account elsewhere.

The rules you quote taken at their literal value are indeed far too generic. Adding additional verbiage to them would do wonders to help clarify things. Hopefully that happens soon.

OK, but then you have to define what you mean by a “derivative work”. How does this play for authors creating Magento / PrestaShop / OpenCart versions of their Woocommerce theme? Is that a derivative work? If not, why is a Jigoshop version of a Woocommerce theme a derivative, while an OpenCart version is not?

Another real life example: I know of at least one Ghost theme for which a Wordpress version has been created and is being sold elsewhere. Is that permitted?

Or to pull an example from our own portfolio: I have three plugins (Woocommerce / WP-ecommerce / Jigoshop) that add a new shipping method said e-commerce plugins. Am I permitted to sell one of those elsewhere?

These are not ridiculous technicalities. These are things which need to be clarified. No one wants to have their products pulled down by Envato because they’re breaking rules, but if those rules aren’t explicitly stated, how are authors supposed to know where they stand?

Cheers, Eric

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Studio164a says

LOL. Too funny. I get it now. You two are getting hung up on the word “same” literally. The mere fact that it’s no longer the “same” item anymore doesn’t suddenly exempt anyone’s account from it’s existing exclusivity state. “All” items approved on an exclusive account should be assumed to be exclusive unless officially told otherwise . There is simply no empirical evidence to support the alternative. This is unless you want to attempt to exploit a potentially non exisitant loophole or pretend that such an exception exists simply because it’s not expressly stated otherwise. For now, I’d just say let’s just agree to disagree until the powers that be step in to let us know what’s what with their definitive words. :-)
It makes sense to get “hung up on the word ‘same’ literally”, considering “sameness” is the only thing that restricts an author from selling the item elsewhere. The two basic rules of selling exclusively are:
1. You CAN sell other items on other sites, including your own.
2. You CANNOT sell the same items elsewhere.

Source: http://support.envato.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/116

With this change, Envato are stating that an existing theme that adds support for a plugin like Woocommerce can be sold as a separate item. If an author is permitted to sell it as a separate item here on Envato, shouldn’t they also be able to sell it outside of Envato instead?

Real-life example: There is a theme currently for sale in the WP ecommerce section with Woocommerce support; this same theme is also sold as a separate item with Jigoshop support. If that is permitted, then does that mean that any theme currently sold with Woocommerce support can be ported to a Jigoshop version and sold on Jigoshop’s site directly?

If not, why not?

Cheers, Eric

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Studio164a says

I have had an issue like this when WPML is installed. I was never able to figure out a good solution other than deactivating WPML temporarily while using the customizer.

Cheers, Eric

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Studio164a says

Is anyone else having trouble when viewing updated article templates through the preview app? I have updated the css but it seems to be caching the old version. I’ve tried logging out and back in again, clicking on different articles and “Refresh Publication” – none of which is sorting the issue. Loosing a bit of time on it and don’t have much left!

I found closing the app completely and then restarting it was sometimes needed.

It’s a bit of a pain — hopefully something they fix up at some point.

Cheers, Eric

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Studio164a says


The themes that have been already accepted are just soft-disabled so you can improve preview images. I think they have sent an e-mail to all of you explaining what’s happening and how to reupload your themes.

According to new terms “Article templates must be unique from each other. You may include additional/minor variations of a template, but these will not be factored into theme pricing.”

In other words, things like very minor css or color modifications do not count toward a template’s uniqueness. The uniqueness of each template will be reviewed by Envato staff.

Where did you read this? Just reading over the competition guidelines and I’m not seeing this.

By the way, I realized after reading through the full terms and conditions (http://support.envato.com/index.php?/Knowledgebase/Article/View/311/0/envatos-most-wanted-terms--conditions) that Envato bases eligibility on when you submit an item, not when it is approved. i.e. It can be approved after the competition ends, so long as it was submitted before it ended.

Cheers, Eric

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Studio164a says

I really hope that Envato extend this competition. It looks like 4 themes have been disabled in the past 2 days. With less than a week to go until the deadline, it makes it really tough for those authors who thought they had valid items and now have very little time to fix up whatever issues they have before the deadline.

I’m not sure about WebGamO’s submitted theme, but ours is still being held — 15 days since submission. If it is not approved before next Monday, does that mean we miss out on this competition? It seems unfair that a theme submitted 20 days before the deadline might actually miss out simply because it hasn’t been reviewed.

Could someone from Envato please comment and clarify what’s going on?

Cheers, Eric

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Studio164a says

I’m working through the tutorials on typeengine.net now and hoping to get a theme together soon (my first ThemeForest submission!). Looks like the section is up on the site now, though it’s strange… I can only see the “TypeEngine” category beneath the “More” menu item when in Safari. When using Firefox and Chrome, it is not visible?

The category is hidden to logged out users while in beta. Hopefully they will take it out of beta soon though to help sales for those who have created products.

Cheers, Eric

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Studio164a says

I’ve also had a theme in the temporarily held queue for the past 3 days. I suspect that they may only be reviewing TypeEngine themes on one specific day of the week, to keep things streamlined for the reviewing team.

I’m really hoping they pull the category out of beta soon!

Cheers, Eric

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Studio164a says

Update: Closing date extended!

The closing date has been extended to Monday December 2nd, 2013. Thats an extra 4 weeks to submit your TypeEngine Themes!

Now you tell me :) We just submitted ours last night.

Will the TypeEngine themes get a cycle through the homepage? Just noticed that the one listed in there already is only visible if you’re logged in, and I don’t recall seeing it on the homepage.

Cheers, Eric

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