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ThemeBeans says

Thanks everyone – means a lot! :)

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ThemeBeans says

Well deserved and many congrats! :)

Thanks bud :)

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ThemeBeans says

Wasn’t expecting this one – sure wasn’t on my radar! Thanks guys!

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ThemeBeans says

I honestly don’t see this happening for year(s) – which is unfortunate.

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ThemeBeans says


A quick question – is Envato going to further participate in the discussion, or was that blog post the final word we’re going to hear about this topic ?
From my experience on the forums, I wouldn’t expect to hear anything new on the subject.

Or at least it’ll be 60-90 days before we hear anything (if at all).

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ThemeBeans says

I’m going to state the obvious here.

Envato is a business and as such it will not price some of the products so they will not sell, neither will they stop this practice. It’s just business and that I can understand (to a point).

It’s a simple fact that an individuals goals are not the same as Envato’s.

Envato can sell 1,000 items from 1,000 authors, or 1,000 items from 1 author – they earn the same folks.

The real take-away from this is that everything stated in the response points right back at you the author to basically stop bitchin’ and do the same if you want to compete, after all it’s a marketplace.

They will allow whatever sells and boy do those MP bundled themes sell (right now). The long term effect on the industry, individuals sales figures and even the impression of ThemeForest and the products sold does not factor here as today is about $$ and tomorrow, yup you guessed it will be about $$.

If as time marches on this starts to reverse, sales go down, traffic slows because of too many people burnt with issues etc. then they will ‘adapt’ via a knee jerk reaction no doubt and then you will get some resolve. Until that day, it’s a dog eat dog world people.

Jonathan

+10000000 You hit the nail right on the head Jonathan. Just wasted a few minutes reading that post.

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ThemeBeans says

Drive on buddy, buyers like that are out there and will simply create a new Envato account and repeat their actions for the next project. Just kindly let him/her know that you will not be supporting their purchase as it’s invalid.

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ThemeBeans says

Nothing will happen. It’s on us to change how things work. Customers will eventually return to unique and simple themes, or multipurpose, but not bloated. Why? Because those bloated themes are just full of garbage that a client don’t need. It’s always like this on every market. The same situation was with 200+ shortcodes… It will all change in time to what it was before. Only question is who will survive that period. I think that we shouldn’t go along the wagon, but produce unique and useful themes and we’ll have our share on the market. I just saw new WP theme from one of our favorite authors. It’s a beautiful niche theme and I believe it will get the sales it deserves. Also I’m proud that those guys didn’t go along with all others that produce those bloated themes! That’s what we can do. Go our own way and produce something that hasn’t been seen before. We must change the trend on the market as Envato won’t do anything about it.

It sounds good, but the truth is that buyers set the trends – not authors.

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ThemeBeans says

This is why we need paid updates.

Yea don’t put your time into it, unless it’s a clear good seller. A massive overhaul update will probably not affect your sales so you won’t really get a solid return on your time invested. That’s the overlaying dilemma of ThemeForest items not having paid updates – or even a limited access to updates (say a year).

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ThemeBeans says

I don’t really care about ratings the way they currently run. If they were not anonymous to viewers and could be commented/replied to – then they would mean something. Currently it’s hardly anything beneficial.

Plus, it’s so anti-smart that potential customers can’t even read the comments associated with the item reviews. Makes zero sense.

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