It can be very frustrating to put a huge amount of thought, time and energy into a template; wait and wait and wait, and finally receive a rejection. To repeat that process multiple times can be even more frustrating.
But listen very carefully to this. Persistence is one of the keys to success. Do not let failure detour you from continuing forward towards realizing your goals. If you haven’t failed you’ve never tried anything new.
No need for any hostilities towards the reviewers or their processes. Getting rejected and/or approved is all part of the process. Expect it. Don’t assume success or failure when focusing on a project. Assuming nothing, and let what comes to you come.
What were some of the reasons behind your products’ rejections? Can you paste what the reviewers had to say?
- Nun Kwon
Hmmm. I’m not sure what I’d do to this. I like what I’ve seen. I don’t see anything wrong with this at all.
Let me think, let me think…
Wow. Nothing comes to mind. Heh. You’ll probably want to look at logos that have been approved and see if you can find anything similar to yours. If I were a reviewer that would have been the only reason I would hard reject your item.
- Nun Kwon
The only thing that comes to mind so far with this logo is trying to incorporate the main “windmill” shape into the word “maximum” or whatever else you can come up with for a word. The 4 rectangles making up the center of the main symbol at top look similar to an “x.” I’m guessing more integration between the word and symbol might make this work? Perhaps that will aid the reviewer in seeing it differently.
The design is very different from what I have seen. Simple, yet complex at the same time.
I’m not sure if I like font used for the “precision.” I’d stick with something that wasn’t cursive.
Another idea popped to mind!
Perhaps you can make the “Maximum” and “Precision” words the same font and have them circulating either the top and bottom of the main symbol, or the right and left of the main symbol. That would make them look much more integrated, and may change the reviewers opinion and way of looking at the entire thing.
- Nun Kwon
Overlapping shapes are easy to create, but they can slow down the efficiency of the file. If you want to try minimizing the amount of shapes used you may want to try thinking about shapes in silhouettes. It’s a very different approach for many when it comes to art, but if you were to start off with a base color for not just a single rose pedal, but the entire area of the pedals, and then layer over your gradient mesh, it would reduce the file size tremendously. It’s a practice I use, but it can be difficult for some to cognate.
Give it a shot on your next vector work. This one seems too near completion for you to rework everything like that.
- Nun Kwon
Hmmm… Here’s what I see and think. It looks as if you were going for a semi-realistic shading technique using gradient mesh? For something that is semi-realistic looking The piece as a hole looks “flat;” as in not 2.5D or 3D enough.
What I think makes this look flat is a lack of shadows being cast from higher pedals and leaves onto lower ones. The pedals themselves seem to be casting shadows on other pedals, but not on the leaves below them. The leaves don’t seem to be casting shadows on leaves below them as well.
I think the reviewer’s eyes and mind were getting mixed up between whether or not the vector should look entirely 2.5D or 3D vs just looking 2D. Hence the “The gradients could use some additional work.” Certain pedals look 3D while most of the leaves look 2D (specifically those towards the top of the graphic).
Hopefully some of that helps.
- Nun Kwon
It most likely will be approved. Can you show us with the Reviewer’s feedback was? Depending on what they said regarding your design being similar to older designs of yours, there may be elements that can be swapped, or the entire design may need to be reorganized.
- Nun Kwon
I wanted to see what you all felt about an old flyer created for a client, and whether or not it would be usable for a Graphic River flyer template. Let me know what you think of the design and what might need to be tweaked:
- Nun Kwon
Hmm. I like what I see here and the overall theme. I’ve yet to browse the marketplace for similar items like ToivoMedia has so I can’t be sure if there are many others like it; but he’s got 1414 posts (at this moment) and provides really decent insight so I’d take his word for it.
Something about the “DJ NOISE & DJ RASMUS” font style is bothering me. I don’t like it amidst all of the other design elements of the flyer. I think this may have to deal with it being an outlier in font style because it’s the only sans typeface you’ve used here. All others are sans-serif. I would change it to a sans-serif font, and maybe make it similar in style to the “20th MARCH PARTY CRASHERS PRESENTS” text, as they look to be the same color.
I’m sure you’ll have to change the branding on the bottles unless you have Absolut Vodka’s permission (if you are including them in the main file).
Outside of that I think this thing could really work here; knowing that certain styles of layout and themes similar to yours are more abundant than others in the market place.
The only thing I would suggest playing with is a border. I just envisioned a really interesting effect you may be able to pull off that might enhance the overall aesthetic quality of the design. I can envision a white border that somehow ends up merging into the background at the bottom of the flyer. If this kind of border were placed behind the “wings” of the model area, it would add to the light top and dark bottom color contrast of the flyer. Just an idea to play with.
- Nun Kwon
“Hell’s Angel” -
For this flyer I can see the angel statue/3d rendering located behind the main title being a visual problem in its current form. I would suggest try turning it into a silhouette and leaving it in the same position to allow for better reading and more definitive area differences (my eye seems to get caught up in thinking that angel is somehow part of the main background while being connected to the title/info area).
I think the stroke around the centered DJ/location text forces that particular text out of the uniformity I see between all of the rest of the text in the flyer. I feel something should be done about that stroke… Taking it away. Also, the”J” in DJ doesn’t appeal to me with that particular font. I like the rest of the letters and how they flow with each other but that J is strange amongst the rest.
I think the “TalylorMade Entertainment Presents” area might look much better and more uniform with the rest of the design if it had metallic-styled growth vines (similar to the ones in the lower information area) incorporated into it somehow.
Finally, something about that hard, straight edge at the bottom of the lower text area’s background just doesn’t seem to work for the flyer (in my eyes). The top of that text area consists of completely curves, and this area would be the only area in the entire flyer consisting of a hard straight edge. I would say give a go at expanding those lower vines out towards the flyer’s edge to do away with the hard straight, abrupt stop in the text area’s design. I feel it would flow better.
“Just Dance” -
I really like this for the most part. I would do something for the purchasers by including a silhouette model and allowing them to use it as a mask/clipping-mask for whatever background image they wanted to replace your multi-face/cityscape background image with.
“A Night Called House of Seduction” -
The background image works very well. I like the fonts and color scheme you’ve come up with to work with the background image. I really do feel that the lower text area will need more work in alignment, text tracking and size, outline and so forth. The colors, fonts and general idea for this area is good, but it can be dramatically improved.
In conclusion, all of these have the potential to be Graphic River merchandise I feel. See what you can do to to make the improvements necessary for a real finished touch, not only visually, but functionality wise (psd organization) as well. In terms of the amount of work you will need to do to come up with a finished product for each flyer I would say it falls in this manner…
LESS TIME: Just Dance > Hell’s Angel > A Night Called House of Seduction :MORE TIME
- Nun Kwon
The Business Card that was soft rejected seems to have a notable contrast in differences on the front and rear of the card. The front (name side) seems to be very simple and elegant; not a single angled line (not including the font or the card’s right-angled edges). But the rear (information side) seems to lose the elegance of the front with the inclusion of the grey “border bars.” The rear I feel may work best if somehow you managed to incorporate the flowing ribbon-like graphical elements into the design (and maybe even use it/them in ways to separate areas of information somehow). I would remove the bars because they are only seen on the rear; or, if you feel they should be kept, I would somehow work design elements of a similar feel into the front of the card for consistency.
For the completely rejected business card, I feel the large brown “stripe” going across the card’s front (name/title side) may be getting in the way of the simplicity of the design. The only other elements I see similar to it in the card’s entire design are the upper and lower “movie title bars?” on the front and rear. I think it may work better for you to try playing with just the circle and name on the front, while doing away with that large stripe.
If you feel the large stripe is a valuable design asset, then I would say see what happens when you align the circle with “John Doe” inside to the left edge of the card. Take the “Graphic Design” and position it to the right of the circle, vertically centered in the large stripe. Play with the tracking, italics and boldness of the two words (of both the name and profession title) to see what you may be able to come up with. By changing the alignment of design elements in this manner, you get something similar in feel to the alignment of the information icons you have on the rear of the card.
For the name and title on both the front and rear of the card I might also try playing with the tracking of the fonts; in a way that would make the first and last name look like their alignments are “justified” and enclosed in a rectangle or square text area. The same for the “Graphic Designer” title on the rear.
Keep us posted on your progress.
- Nun Kwon