Posts by Vasterad

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303 posts
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  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
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Vasterad
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I’m guessing it’s because of VAT charge.

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  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
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Here’s [image removed] their own logo so that’s probably “bug”. Maybe they liked your logo, used it only for test and forgot to change it. :P

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  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
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Vasterad
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Are there some Poles in here?
No they are all in the UK!
Nah :D
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  • Had an item that became a weekly top seller
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
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I hate to say it, but there is a market that already allows authors to set their own pricing and has no review process and is extremely successful.

Fortunately Envato didn’t follow this way.

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  • Had an item that became a weekly top seller
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
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https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-supplying-digital-services-to-private-consumers/vat-businesses-supplying-digital-services-to-private-consumers#digital-portals-platforms-gateways-and-marketplaces


Collis, what about this:

If you operate a digital platform through which third parties sell e-services you are liable to account for the VAT on those sales unless every one of the following conditions are met:

  • the digital platform and everyone else involved in the supply must identify who the supplier is in their contractual arrangements
  • the invoice, bill or sales receipt must identify that supplier and the service supplied
  • the digital platform must not authorise the charge to the consumer
  • the digital platform must not authorise the delivery
  • the digital platform must not set the general terms and conditions of the sale

If you do not meet all of these conditions, you must treat the sales of third party e-services as if they were your own and declare the VAT due.

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  • Had an item that became a weekly top seller
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
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Vasterad
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Correct me if I am wrong, but wouldn’t some authors (in the case that we were actually selling directly to the buyer) have to add sales tax to all purchases made by buyers coming from the same country/state as the author? Or somehow factor this percentage in?

You’re right but Envato “forgot” about that and Collis said they’ll adjust current invoices in near future. Very professional. ;)

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  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
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Under EU law they are the reseller. There’s an EU-wide legislation which classify them as re-seller so in my and my accountant opinion changes don’t affect us especially when invoices issued by Envato are invalid. If Envato will issue valid invoices (for all EU countries, not just for a few like now) then there will be possibility to handle it as they want, however there’s another problem – e.g. in my country there’s nothing like “VAT agent” as Envato would like to be and I’d be forced to pay VAT by myself for every single sale. ;)

There is a possibility to have “VAT Agent” however it has to be a company from the same country (Poland) and Author cannot be an active VAT payer.

If Author is an active VAT payer then he has be responsible to manage VAT himself and cannot allow anyone to do VAT stuff on his behalf. (this is how I understand Art 18 ustawy o VAT).
I’m guessing that act is not adapted to reality in our cases.
303 posts
  • Had an item that was trending
  • Had an item that became a weekly top seller
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
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Vasterad
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Under EU law they are the reseller. There’s an EU-wide legislation which classify them as re-seller so in my and my accountant opinion changes don’t affect us especially when invoices issued by Envato are invalid.

If Envato will issue valid invoices (for all EU countries, not just for a few like now) then there will be possibility to handle it as they want, however there’s another problem – e.g. in my country there’s nothing like “VAT agent” as Envato would like to be and I’d be forced to pay VAT by myself for every single sale. ;)

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  • Had an item that was trending
  • Had an item that became a weekly top seller
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Made it to the Authors' Hall of Fame
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Vasterad
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Ok, got a few questions, and I figured since the answers might be interesting for everyone here I ask in the forum instead of sending a mail to tax@envato.com:

1.) You tell us Envato Marketplaces are a platform and you are not the seller. Yet I have a legal document issued by the Austrian Federal Ministry of Finance that basically says you are the seller, based on the way you operate.

It unfortunately seems to be only available in german but its easy enough for me to offer a sufficient translation.

Under section 3a.13.1 it says that it is assumed that an appstore (or similar service) is not the seller if you only process the payments and do nothing else. Otherwise it is assumed that you are the ones getting the full revenue of a transaction and then pay others a commission. Since Envato offers a lot more than simply being a payment provider you would need to qualify for each of the following statements in order to not be the seller:

  • All invoices to customers need to contain my name (check I suppose, with the new invoices)
  • We got a contractual agreement that says you are not the seller (check, its now in your TOS)
  • You neither authorize the service I offer, nor do you dictate the terms on which they are offered (not even close to check)
Last one is key here: Since Envato reviews all items I upload and also sets the price you dont qualify for the last item on the list. And because of that austria considers you the seller.
Here’s EU-wide legislation (page 24 point 3.4.2): http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_customs/resources/documents/ taxation/vat/how_vat_works/telecom/explanatory_notes_2015_en.pdf

Here’s document issued by the Polish Ministry of Finance which refers to EU directive 1042/2013 linked above (page 2, point 1): http://www.mf.gov.pl/documents/766655/1402295/Broszura+MOSS+styczen+2015.pdf

If anyone of Polish authors want, you can show that to your accountant / tax advisor. :P
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