LiveMesh saidNice point to think over.
To keep it simple, Envato probably should probably let the authors of the popular MP themes to price their items themselves as long as they keep the minimum price set for a theme in that category.
I don’t think so … That way everyone will keep the minimum price to be competitive.
It’s a good thing that Envato keeps control over prices. Prices should have broader range – for example (and this is very rough estimate, for WP themes only):
- simple blog theme – $40
- specialized niche theme (eshop, photo etc) $50 – $65
- MP (simple demo -2,3 demos max) – $70 – $80
- MP with multiple demos ($80 +) – each demo + $5, so theme with 20 demos (that is 20 different mu or single sites / 20 import files) = $180
Let the authors set prices = TF death. That’s my opinion.
Although multipurpose themes offer more demos, their functionality, code, and structure are essentially the same as niche themes of a similar price. Although multipurpose themes tend to “bundle” more plugins than niche themes, attribution and pricing for bundled plugins is a complex, market-wide problem that won’t be solved by recategorizing multipurpose themes. We’re committed to fixing it, but it’s something for the long term.
Hi Ben, thanks for your response.
This is expected answer, although not the one I hoped for.
Demos are very important for adding value to theme. Buyers like more demos, because all those demos are included with theme – the more demos, the more choice of simple setting up of different sites = more value.Adding more demos adds value to theme like adding more premium plugins..
You simply cannot value the same theme with 20 completely different demos (with hundreds of pages for import inside), with 5 premium plugins and niche, simple theme with 2 premium plugins and one regular demo (or couple of them) . No matter the functionality (number of options, php/css/js files) are pretty much the same (although it isn’t, but ,that something to discuss a long).
Multi-purpose (or better Multi-demo / premium plugins) themes have greater value. Period. It’s up to you guys in Envato if you will recognize that and what will you do (or won’t) with prices (as many of us suggest).
Bundling plugins should also increase the price, for example (this is very rough estimate):
- each premium (from CodeCanyon) should add at least $5 to theme price
- each demo should add at least $10 to theme price
I know guys (from Envato) won’t agree with me, and nothing (or very little) will change regarding this matter, and I know why (Envato interest is more important to you then “community interest, off course) ... I just had to left it off my chest …
aligatorstudio saidIn all seriousness, if ThemeFusion’s agreement with this issue isn’t enough to at least get a legit response (let alone actual change), I’m pretty sure no one will ever be qualified to discuss anything ever again with regard to the way things are handled on this site.
What qualifies you to question his qualifications ? ( I just hate when someone starts talking about qualifications – it’s his OPINION, not an official estimation… ). Who do you think would be qualified ? Collis only ?
I actually agree with you on this … Still, we need to what we can, don’t we ? But, as I said before, this is not going to happen. Price dump is what made Envato big (among other business they made). They most probably won’t give up on that, no matter great number of authors (including best sellers) agree that the situation is not ok, and mostly agree on what should be done. They shouldn’t keep same policy, because market situation has drastically changed compared to looking back just one year ago. I know they are pretty aware of that, but I’m not sure they know what to do about that.
ThemeFusion saidPsssh…what even qualifies you to talk about this issue?
Right now, the entire pricing structure is way below the market price of WordPress themes.
All themes should go up and priced better along with multi-purpose themes going to a higher price point than niche and focused themes.So a big +1 to this. We seriously don’t get the $1 price raise across the board. That is a very conservative test and the data gathered after this change might not really prove anything.
What qualifies you to question his qualifications ?
( I just hate when someone starts talking about qualifications – it’s his OPINION, not an official estimation… ). Who do you think would be qualified ? Collis only ?
Again, not going to happen, but still:
Not going to happen. Period.
$content = get_option("YOUR OPTION");
echo esc_attr( $content );
esc_attr (or esc_html and others) should be called latest possible.
The reviewers search for “echo $”, and that created us some rejects too, becuase we have a lot of shorthand conditionals like
echo $if_this ? esc_attr($some_data) : esc_attr($other_data);
I don’t want to opt-out of support (who want’s that nasty badge saying we don’t support our items – when in reality “why wouldn’t we”)... but give us the option to opt-out of the extended option.
I don’t want to be contracted into selling an item on ThemeForest for 1 year after the last purchase date of an extended support pack (btw that I barely made anything off of). Basically if I ever wanted to remove an item here, I’d have to say I don’t support it for a whole year, THEN I can take it off the marketplace, to put it elsewhere, give it away, etc.
Ironically, who will want to buy a product that’s been presumably “unsupported” for the last year?See where I’m coming from here? You’re catching us authors in a net to keep us here on Envato Market (and away from rising competitors) OR to revoke our exclusivity – so that you make even more $ off of us.
Great design and details. However, home versions are only different in header, and hero/slider (?). Perhaps you should build more diverse home pages.
Other than that, I would submit it, if I created it …
We are having “scss” folder, inside it loads of .scss files (mixins, vars, partials), and using ZurbFoundation scss as base (even the WooCommerce scss). Most of it is rendered in root style.css, some are loaded with separate wp_enqueue. Everything is minified, to reduce load and requests.
It’s a bit of pain in the a. but has it’s advantages (better then css overrides, we used massively before)