Seems not much important for Envato staff to respond to our concerns. this is quite disappointing…
I agree with you guys,
This is something lately happening and seems envato lost the control of item approval. Seems there is no a strict pattern in item approval. having an item in recent item and its exposure is something that defines its fate for future sales. Envato must have known about this.
OMG, Finally this day arrived. we should celebrate this day guys…
I highly support this thread and I think one more feature could be adding staff reply that lets privileged users to reply to comments(such as support staff). This can help some authors to focus more on updates and bug fixings rather than giving support for hours. Cheers
Thats what most of authors wished to have. well its pain in the ass for some top sellers to answer to all comments. instead of focusing on updates we should always spend almost 2-3 hours a day to comments section.
I hope this will be added to Envato marketplaces very soon.
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All shortcodes should be banned from themes. If you want to include them, provide them as a separate plugin. Useless customization options should not be available too, example: “+1000 fonts to select from”. What I hate on themeforest themes is all the useless crap that authors include on it.
I totally I agree with you regarding some features that just bring loads and makes themes super sized. Unfortunately this become a culture in themeforest and if you want to compete you should include them. for example in our coming theme I did all my best to remove those things like many fontfaces, just very few remain that fits to design. I did all my best to keep theme below 6mb. there are some themes over 15mb and most of the hosts upload limit is below 10mb. so imagine the load of support and unhappy customers.
Regarding to the shortcodes, making them plugin without any proper guide will not solve the madness rather will bring many hassles. I think there should also be a guideline on how to downgrade if the user switches the theme.
I notice that in the Theme Check plugin when running tests, it displays that it is REQUIRED for add_theme_page() to be used in place of add_menu_page().
I’m not understanding why add_menu_page() is REQUIRED instead of RECOMMENDED? Since add_menu_page() adds a top level menu item, whereas add_theme_page() only adds a submenu under the Appearance top level menu. Why does the Theme Check plugin have this as REQUIRED instead of RECOMMENDED, when WordPress Codex has that method available for wp developers to use? And the various themes sold on ThemeForest have top level menu items to group and organize their option page menus for usability to the end user.
If my admin options I’m making for a theme have many option pages, I want to group my theme pages together under my own top level menu item. It will be very impractical to use add_theme_page(), which would make all my option pages submenus under the Appearance menu. I want to group my option pages together so the end user doesn’t get confused when using my theme and navigating the backend which is a usability issue! That is why i would use add_menu_page().
Anyone else seeing this error thrown in the Theme Check plugin? And think that it should be RECOMMENDED instead of REQUIRED?
I emailed Enavto Support regarding this issue with the Theme Check plugin, and will post if I receive an answer.thanks!
If wordpress does not let developers use top level menu then where is the scalability of wordpress we all talking about? why all of my pages should go under appearance?
Do you know why theme check gives this error? because its configured for wordpress.com where you cant do much. they have this and that rules for their own…
I’m about 50% done of moving my code into separate plugins, and as far as I can tell, the plugins will keep working when switching themes, but without any extensive coding knowledge, it’s impossible for users to get a nice, beautiful looking layout. You’ll get a mess, for example Bootstrap columns on Twenty Eleven won’t fit in its main container as a row on Bootstrap is 1200px, the columns will overflow/vertically stacked. So no worries about users using the plugins on other themes, as of course there will be no documentation about the plugin API and the one who knows how to use it properly is only you!
I totally agree with you! Your mentioned problem and conflicts will be just the least of them. looking into the theory of making shortcodes as plugins is practical only in a closed frameworks like wordpress.com with its strict rules. not in a marketplace with many sort of varieties.
In TF we go out of all these rules because we are not only making a blog theme. business themes serve to many more needs than just a blog.
In fact TF authors do their best to make a great solution to fulfil buyers needs so they won’t get into changing their themes every 2 months (I mean they pay 50 bucks to change it?!)
I will submit my next theme in few days and I am not going to make them as a plugin since I have a page builder and all without each other combined will sense nothing at all. I did my best to fit my standards with all listed requirements, but again I am not going to do this to myself and my buyers.
I admit there should always be improvements in minimum criteria, but the list that envato team provided is ambiguous in some points. I guess many of authors mentioned them in this very long thread. I just hope we will not be thrown into something that looks ridiculous for most of us!!
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