Posts by bobach

thanks Dorde… Yes, at 1st glance the controls might be scary…but I have provided a thorough video tutorial describing each control.. ...the screenshot is of scene 3 where I have 4 text controls…which means I repeat the same controls for each 3d text 4times…that is why there are so many…. it is really quite simple when explained in the Video Tutorial Still I resubmitted omitting a number of controls which give only a subtle effect …subtracting over 20 controls in scene 3. (if I splt, these controls up, I feel, it would add more complexity.

I post this for others as I thought having many controls would never be an issue…

All this said …these are the same controls I used for my Rock Promo project …which I had received 5 stars just after the 1s 3 purchases, (a first for me) and have had no complaints since.. This is a good test as to whether it is confusing or not… Again I would never post so many controls, without a good video tutorial to explain them.

yes, I am aware of your work…it must be very frustrating to not get a valid reason…especially for 15 days…

Creattive ..thanks for the suggestion… but I think that would be just more visual controls and may over whelm as suggested by Ghos… will omit the subtle effects like metal, specular intensity, also a neon glow on the front face plate of the text (an option not seen in the preview) .. This should get it accepted as I see all other controls, like size, light angle, color, shadow as being necessary.

Ghos…enjoyed your photo….:)... but customized choice seems to be a asset in commerce …its working for Starbucks.. I agree that it can be too much…they should get rid of all those salads except for the Arugula .. my personal favorite..

3Ddym said
Holy Pig!!! try to reduce them bob, when buyers see this they won’t rate your project for sure

ok, will do… just to get it posted… but I have had a similar controls on my Rock Promo and my response from the purchasers was positive…

yes, it seems like a lot of controls but they repeat for the top middle and bottom text (from that one scene) which is necessary to have separate controls… broken down it is quite simple to follow and are there if the person wants to edit it… Ghos …considering you suggestions… perhaps I have very basic controls on the Final comp and put the other controls in the comps imbedded.. (still this feels Like I am complicating it more) Will reduce the subtle effects & re submit.

I have a similar menu for a recent project and by a positive response from some purchasers I felt it was successful in easing the editing/customization of the project. I give a thorough video tutorial going over each control which perhaps the reviewer had failed to notice.

The key point from the reviewer: “when you have separate slider for every possible option in the project – it gets complicated and destroys the purpose of having those sliders. Besides having so many expressions slows down the project and it might even freeze the slower computers.” “it’s much easier to customise those elements from where they are in the comp rather than from a single control layer where you only have a tiny caption text to understant what controls what. Please reduce the slider amount greatly and make your project easy customisable.”

Point understood, however, I have a video tutorial where I go over each control & when I consider each control other than a few which produce subtle effects (like, shininess, specular intensity, metal) they are all of positive value to the purchaser. To “greatly reduce” the number of controls would greatly detract from the ease of customization of the project. The project is a short 10 second 3D text ident using the familiar multiple Bevel Alpha layers to make up the 3d text for which controls are necessary, otherwise you would need to edit each of the 28 layers making up the front & side of the text.. I will resubmit minus the subtle effects mentioned above but even this pains me as some buyers are more exacting and appreciate this subtle control…..but to greatly reduce the menu would be a disservice to my purchasers. Also, in my opinion, multiple expressions do not slow down a project..it is just simple code.. its the multiple bevel alpha layers and effects & 3D, which slow a project…

Frustrating to have a reviewer demand I remove customization options for which I feel the purchaser is appreciative of (shown by a 5 star on a recent project with a similar menu) Which is more important ..please the reviewer who is also a competitor, or please my customers?

AndrVlad said

bobach said
Andrey, It is both respectful to Envato and to the Authors. Its about fair exchange. Both parties do well at point of sale, but from that point on your share of the sale is exactly that..yours, and not for Envato to hold. I am also a painter with a dealer who sends me my earnings as soon as the sale is made…the most reputable and respectful dealers who appreciate the true value of their artists do the same. You’re implying that I am dismissing all the other great qualities of Envato, ..of course not…But don’t forget the collective work and value of the Author. We are envato. The nice paw & $ is something I/we all worked hard for. Kind regards.

It’s difficult to compare huge web service with some local (i assume) dealers where you sell your paintings.
Envato is kind of mass products market not custom products market. Imagine you produced CD or nice framed photo or whatever for many copies and asks shops to send you payments as soon as any copy of your product was sold or immediately after month end. In most cased you will get your payment in like 30-60 days.

Of course it would be nice to be able to withdraw own money anytime just as request submitted or exactly on each month end but I think for such a huge service is not that easy to do. Also there are some protection aspects like 1) if somebody stole/hack your password and get all your earnings or 2) somobody sell fraud products, or 3) if customers return products due to some major issue (reviewer can’t check everything) and get reimbursed.
Besides these I think there are accounting and other logistics resons where fixed payment date after 15 days helps to resolve. That is why I think there is nothing about “respect to the authors” here.

Best Regards, Andrey

Hi Andrey… your point taken, and I have pondered some of the aspects you put forth…and perhaps yes, some of these may drive the decisions to hold the money. But it is my guess, since I don’t have access to the books, that fraud is mostly rare, and that there are enough safety checks already in place, so that a business model of providing the Author’s share immediately on sale would still be very successful. (It may even be more successful if you considering increased motivation) . Still the fundamental question is..is it their money to hold…regardless. & what I mean by respect is recognizing the true value of Authors on the whole. I believe most if not all would like the choice of accessing their money immediately. Kind regards

Is it respectful to call “isn’t respectful to the authors” pretty usual and well understandable practice. Considering that this is the place where you got nice paw badge and earned some money? Andrey

Andrey, It is both respectful to Envato and to the Authors. Its about fair exchange. Both parties do well at point of sale, but from that point on your share of the sale is exactly that..yours, and not for Envato to hold. I am also a painter with a dealer who sends me my earnings as soon as the sale is made…the most reputable and respectful dealers who appreciate the true value of their artists do the same. You’re implying that I am dismissing all the other great qualities of Envato, ..of course not…But don’t forget the collective work and value of the Author. We are envato. The nice paw & $ is something I/we all worked hard for. Kind regards.

I agree with 3Dym…get it out and put it in a secure place where you can access it immediately. The 15 day hold etc…isn’t respectful to the authors.

In looking at a recently posted project I immediately noticed it was a combination of 2 other vHive projects..one a top seller. Though with all the glorious comments I can only come to the conclusion that mash ups are kosher here..Even the person who’s project was copied gave a positive comment. Creation is a spectrum, that hopefully falls between borrowing and improving upon to pure discovery through play…naturally the latter being a greater form…however cut and paste is just plain lazy.