Posts by buddhabeats

Well, if you ever want to try something like this with another track in the future and worry this may happen again, I guess you could open a new account and submit under that one. Then it technically isn’t a variation if its counterpart isn’t in “that author’s portfolio”.

Now I’m guessing that could be side-stepping the rules a bit. I know we can open another account for exclusive/non-exclusive music, but not sure about just opening a new random account for whatever reason. I suppose I could see legit reasons for doing this though. Anyhow…just a thought for you to ponder.

I’ll recommend what I always do when I see this asked (and good thing you’re asking! Can’t imagine tackling a studio build with no info in hand), gather as much info as possible about the area you have to work with, your desired outcome of the studio, and budget; then take it to John Sayers forum and/or gearstlutz acoustics sub-forum and present the info to them for some guidance.

You won’t get it designed for you, but they’ll really help you avoid common pitfalls and mis-information. All this could save time and money in the end. I don’t know how many times I’ve seen guys build something, it not work, and then post in those forums wondering what went wrong. When told to “knock down the wall and start again”, it’s kind of sad to see their reaction.

Lastly, buy a copy of Rod’s book (Home Recording Studio Build it Like the Pros, by Rod Gervais). I bought it. It’s WELL worth the cash. It seems pretty much “standard issue” in the DIY studio building world. And the author frequents gearslutz, so you can ask him particulars about something in his book you don’t understand and often get an answer.

Hope that was of help!

garethcoker said
Besides ,by not giving detailed feedback for hard rejection, they 1) speed up the review process and 2) are actually helping you develop your own ear/intuition and ability to evaluate your own music, even if you don’t realize it at first.

I think we’re starting to mix things up here. I don’t believe anyone has asked for detailed feedback for a rejected item, but maybe I’ve missed that post. Specifically, Magenta mentioned “a couple of words”.

I think it best everyone get on the same page. Are we talking about detailed feedback or a few words of feedback (Author getting a general direction)? I thought the latter was what we were discussing. B/c it does make a difference.

permian said

buddhabeats said
I had one hard rejection and DID get feedback. (Yes, they do give feedback for hard-rejections as someone pointed out earlier.) I was told not to re-submit.

I’m afraid that was just one of the standard answers they’re providing. Like Unfortunately your submission Modern Epic Hybrid Happy Clappy Ukulele Intro Logo isn’t ready for AudioJungle and cannot be resubmitted as it did not meet our minimum requirements… and stuff.

Well, I can’t refute that as I must have deleted the email. I looked back at a different rejection and had this reply:

“Thanks for your patience while your submission was re-evaluated, but after a team review it was agreed that we are unable to accept this item. A recording of a suburban neighbourhood is a good idea, but this particular file sounds as if recorded…”

And it goes on to describe what their interpretation of the recording sounded like to them and why for those reasons couldn’t accept it. That one was certainly not a stock answer, but I’m willing to admit it may have been an exception to the rule.

StudioEtude said

buddhabeats said
Anyhow, let’s just forget about it.

Yes 100%! After all, we are not husband and wife

Hahahaha! Awesome! Best one-liner I’ve seen in these forums yet!

BTW, welcome to AJ.

Yeah, I guess that kind of makes sense. But maybe it could be “dumbed down” a bit. For example, just have a “Trending Page”. It can show which categories have been trending in the past week, month, etc. And conversely, which categories have been going cold.

Perhaps this could be a resource solely for authors.

StudioEtude said

buddhabeats said
I think you misunderstood my meaning of “evil” in my original post. My meaning was, if someone gets hard rejected and posts about it here in the forums, there’s a trend to somehow “belittle” the person for doing it. “Hey, if you don’t like it, go somewhere else” This is an attitude I’ve heard from some of my fellow countrymen to certain minority groups when they complain about something. Here at AJ I’ve seen this kind of post come up again and again, it’s hardly an isolated incident – and I haven’t been here long. So obviously it’s an issue for some authors that needs more of an answer than “get over it” or “go somewhere else”. So again, I’m saying these people are not doing a bad thing by asking these questions. But the response they get is seems overwhelmingly negative IMO. Hope you understand now what I meant by “evil”.

Thank you for your clarification. I have no doubt that you understand what I mean.
Sincerely, Sinar

I’m sorry, but now I’m really a little confused. I thought I understood what you were saying, but maybe something got “lost in translation”, as they say.

I have the same problem sometimes with my wife; she’s a non-native English speaker. She’ll say something; I’ll reply; then she’ll say (usually angrily) “You know what I meant. Stop playing games!” But the problem is, I didn’t know what she meant. Or I thought I knew what she meant and replied wrongly. I feel bad when that happens.

Anyhow, let’s just forget about it.

JBlanks said
Wow buddha – no need to be nasty. I’m sorry your tired of the music critiquing service line, but the fact remains AJ is a marketplace. Do you follow my logic?

I’m sorry if you thought I was being nasty. I wasn’t. Just speaking my mind like everyone else here. Perhaps going against the grain is considered being nasty? Not sure…

A marketplace; yes we all know. No need to keep reminding us. However the fact remains, if you have one or two issues in your submission as ADG3studios wrote in a recent thread, they will give you feedback (critique) so your track can be accepted. If you have too many issues they will give you no feedback (critique).

Soooooooo….does AJ critique or not? Yes. Just not in all cases.

JBlanks said
If the author isn’t capable of self determining the worth of his track before submitting, he should collaborate with or learn from a more experienced person. Just wanting to submit music doesn’t entitle you to receive feedback and to take up the paid time of people employed in a commercial enterprise. Envato are not there to teach you. Passing on a one liner to each item would add up to a lot of work each day and slow down the queue yet again.

I highly doubt people are just “wanting to submit music”. That statement really sounds like you’re saying people are taking 20 minutes to throw together some loops and submitting for the heck of it. I have to believe people are genuinely trying their best.

As for the reviewers’ paid time, think of it this way: reviewer passes along a simple one-liner that took him an additional 15 seconds of his time to write (or even better, a response he has copied and pasted from Word). Author understands and – instead of trashing the track – he spends a couple days reworking things and makes it passable. Now, that time and money the reviewer spent to send the one-liner has paid off the first time that track sells.

And the queue, I’ll say it again. I’d rather have a 30+ day queue with only the best possible tracks being approved than a 5 day queue with less than perfect tracks being approved.

How long does it take to release something commercially? Heck, if you were a great author and got your tracks accepted for release on a major stock music label, how long will it be to see them out there? 12 days IMO is extremely fast. I wouldn’t complain if three times that much.

JBlanks said
Of course soft rejections get feedback – the tracks have potential. But that’s the reason they have two categories. I don’t think you’re looking at it from a logistical perspective buddha.

System is unavoidably subjective due to the personal tastes of each reviewer. But it enjoy it while it last, someone is probably going to write software to review our tracks one day.

The problem is, some hard-rejections also have potential. I had one hard rejection and DID get feedback. (Yes, they do give feedback for hard-rejections as someone pointed out earlier.) I was told not to re-submit. I felt that was in error. And it was. I resubmitted and explained the reason and it was approved. Had there been no comments from the reviewer, I would have assumed the quality wasn’t good, the item wasn’t wanted, etc… Thus, one decent item not selling in the market.

Anyhow, all I’m trying to do here is give a voice to the opposition in this “argument”. It seems like it’s everyone against Kurlykovs here. I guess I’m the type who likes to help out the under-dog. Or in some cases be the devil’s advocate. A different perspective isn’t a bad thing in my mind.

StudioEtude said

buddhabeats said
And from what I’m reading, people aren’t “whining” due to vanity reasons. People are rejected, given a canned response that provides no direction, then sit wondering what the problem was. They just want to get their item approved and hope to find a way to make that happen. What’s so “evil” about that and why try to make them feel bad about it?

In fact, no evil and no one wants! And this is important …. On the other hand, are well aware that new writers can be hard or something is not clear at the beginning of his “way”, but sometimes “groans” are heard from those who have already had to get used to this system …. And more .. Why do you need reviewer comments when you have such a “powerful weapon” as this forum and Sounclod account? And there is no “evil”, there is a desire to listen and help, in the end …. Peace be with you

I think you misunderstood my meaning of “evil” in my original post. My meaning was, if someone gets hard rejected and posts about it here in the forums, there’s a trend to somehow “belittle” the person for doing it. “Hey, if you don’t like it, go somewhere else” This is an attitude I’ve heard from some of my fellow countrymen to certain minority groups when they complain about something.

Here at AJ I’ve seen this kind of post come up again and again, it’s hardly an isolated incident – and I haven’t been here long. So obviously it’s an issue for some authors that needs more of an answer than “get over it” or “go somewhere else”.

So again, I’m saying these people are not doing a bad thing by asking these questions. But the response they get is seems overwhelmingly negative IMO.

Hope you understand now what I meant by “evil”.