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butlerm
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It’s not looped. The start and the end is absolutely different.

+1

447 posts butlerm.com
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Helped several times protecting Envato Market against copyright violations
  • Has referred 1000+ members
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butlerm
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447 posts butlerm.com
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Helped several times protecting Envato Market against copyright violations
  • Has referred 1000+ members
  • Has sold $250,000+ on Envato Market
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butlerm
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Currently 8 days and still not approved yet

447 posts butlerm.com
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Helped several times protecting Envato Market against copyright violations
  • Has referred 1000+ members
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butlerm
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I got one as well… but this is my theory of what happened.

Envato’s tutsplus site was hacked 3 or 4 years ago(emails, passwords, etc)... my guess is this person bought a bulk email address list from the hacker on the black market website and is now trying to make a profit.

447 posts butlerm.com
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Helped several times protecting Envato Market against copyright violations
  • Has referred 1000+ members
  • Has sold $250,000+ on Envato Market
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butlerm
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I’ll be going… 3rd year in a row and happy to see envato will be there.

447 posts butlerm.com
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Helped several times protecting Envato Market against copyright violations
  • Has referred 1000+ members
  • Has sold $250,000+ on Envato Market
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447 posts butlerm.com
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Helped several times protecting Envato Market against copyright violations
  • Has referred 1000+ members
  • Has sold $250,000+ on Envato Market
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butlerm
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oh… But i recently saw in the forums that people got their items approved with in hours. My last uploaded item took only two days to get approved. May be there’s a lot in the queue.

You should really check the date when posts are made. It could easily be weeks, months or even years old.

447 posts butlerm.com
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Helped several times protecting Envato Market against copyright violations
  • Has referred 1000+ members
  • Has sold $250,000+ on Envato Market
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butlerm
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well said Digi and Jay.

I think this whole thing should operate like a goods and service tax. The buyer pays the tax amount and that is it.

NOw as an example here in canada there is a 13% tax that would be charged on anything you buy its called HST harmonized sales tax. The buyer pays it we collect it and then when we do taxes we pay a portion back to the government all depends on what you have to write off as a tax deduction against it. This only stands for as a direct seller tho, authors are not direct sellers because we have absolutely nothing to do with the transaction between the buyer and Envato. We collect a set commission on each sale that is it which we wait to withdraw for 15 days. A direct seller gets paid before he sends the product as a good example lets use E-Bay. Any time i bought anything on E-Bay i had to pay and wait to receive the goods the direct seller got paid soon as i checked out. Again this shows that authors here are not direct sellers.

I think the reason why envato is doing this is to cover their rumps for tax purposes. Which i understand but i think there is a better way of doing this not to confuse and piss people off.

So here is a scenario the buyer pays the tax on the purchase envato collect the tax and pays the tax to the government or who ever they have to pay taxes to. I think this would make sense to me why now all of a sudden the author is responsible for this. If the author is responsible for this then there would be a way of doing this. If i get 60% commission then i pay taxes after that and i would receive that tax money that envato collected from the buyer on the initial purchase. Envato would get 40 % of that tax money collected and they would pay their taxes accordingly after the 40%. It is pretty simple math. I don’t know why there is this big confusing story.

Cheers

Lester

You basically just described the VAT tax and envato is already or just about ready to start doing.

447 posts butlerm.com
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Helped several times protecting Envato Market against copyright violations
  • Has referred 1000+ members
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butlerm
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I wouldn’t say I’m “pissed off”, but I’m definitely concerned about what’s gone on lately.

I pay taxes on my earnings as well, and have ever since I started making money here. That’s not the issue. The issue is that, at least as far as US authors go, Envato has added an “author fee”, which will greatly change our gross income in addition to forcing us to calculate and deduct these “author fees” in order to arrive at our taxable income. It’s an added step that is completely unnecessary.

On top of that, Envato will be reporting this exaggerated income figure (your earnings plus the author fees) to the IRS, which conflicts with the figure (the more accurate figure of what you actually take home) that PayPal will report to the IRS, which will very likely cause issues for US authors.

Now, Envato said they are working with PayPal in order to resolve that issue, but in the meantime, I’m trying to wrap my mind around why we even have this “platform” model in the first place that would precipitate the use of an “author fee” that would cause all of these issues. It all seems incredibly unnecessary, and we have yet to hear an actual answer as to why it actually is necessary.

It seems like this “portal” model is more of a preference for Envato instead of a necessity. And at that point, when the preference by nearly every author is to go with the commission model, that’s exactly why so many authors are not happy with this decision since Envato’s preference is trumping ours.

Yep I completely agree with you…
1) Basically we will be making the same amount but having to pay more taxes(making less).
2) Now that it is a market platform model it seems UNETHICAL to still have to be exclusive/non-exclusive to envato.

447 posts butlerm.com
  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Helped several times protecting Envato Market against copyright violations
  • Has referred 1000+ members
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butlerm
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@ Zineb_Chraibi. I think Envato along with a lot of authors would be nervous of Graphic River becoming the Fivvr of creative assets. People putting extremely low pricing because they don’t know how to price their item or are trying to beat out other authors. I’m all about being able to charge more for assets, it’s price gauging I have a concern over.

I agree thats why I’m fine having prices set by the reviewers like it has always been.

Biggest problem I have is now that we are in a platform marketplace system, the whole concept of being exclusive should not exist. I would be really happy to get an answer from Collis on when this will be changing.

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