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byronyasgur says

Thanks for your input. I have some doubts though that it’s what the reviewer is looking for … I don’t think a couple of fairly small tweaks to the header and slider would change any theme described as a generic, plain and resembling a theme framework into something worthy of Themeforest. Those words generic, plain and framework suggest to me that he’s looking for changes which are fairly substantial … but I really don’t have a clue where to start.

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byronyasgur says

This is my second soft rejection and I could do with some help.

I had a reasonable idea what the reviewer meant in the first soft rejection, and made some substantial changes; I am fairly lost this time and I am unsure what he is referring to.

I am aware of the changes you made and the effort you put on this. But the overall design quality is still not ready for ThemeForest.

Currently, it looks more like a framework rather than a theme.

The content area is pretty generic and plain, and it will need more imaginations.

I don’t understand what the reviewer means by “content area” as this could mean any of : the left column, everything between the header and footer, the whole site, the content as opposed to the theme, left column on blog, static pages etc etc ….or the wp_content() in wordpress terms either.

I also don’t see what he means by looking like a theme framework. I found a blog post of the most popular theme frameworks and they didnt seem to share that many design cues together themesevles … so I don’t understand how he can refer to “themeframeworks” as a group when the seem to be so diverse, so which theme framework(s) is he be talking about … some of theme looked really bad to me and a couple of them looked really good I think ... also I can’t see which cues he’s referring to. I couldnt find that much in common between my theme and theme frameworks in general. Then I got thinking maybe he didnt mean a “theme framework” as in a WP themeframework but maybe he meant that there wasnt enough content in my preview site.

“it will need more imaginations” ... can someone who’s first language is English please tell me … I presume this is this just a misprint or bad grammar … or am I supposed to derive something from the plural “imaginations”?

http://byronyasgur.com/abundantlife/
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byronyasgur says

Yes, thanks … well I gathered that from the last comment, but still if you have anything constructive to add, I’d really appreciate hearing it because as informative as the reviewer’s comment is, it’s still no substitute for the aggregated comments of the community. Thanks

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byronyasgur says

Yes, I agree, quite detailed. Did you happen to spot any particular aspects of my design that you think the reviewer have been referring to … and would you like to say whether you think “stand out from the rest” refers to functionality or design?

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byronyasgur says

My theme was soft rejected earlier today. It seems from the comments that the problems are all aesthetic, specifically to do with clutter and also the design being dated. I would appreciate comments on this. I have some ideas on what the reviewer is talking about but I would also like to see what the community thinks, so if anyone would like to voice their opinion please feel free … and thanks.

My Preview Sitehttp://byronyasgur.com/abundantlifepreview

The reviewer’s full comment was

“Unfortunately your submission Abundant Life Church Responsive WordPress Theme isn’t quite ready for ThemeForest.

Additionally, we have some extra feedback for you:

I am aware of everything you mentioned but the main issue here is the overall design and aesthetic quality which are seriously lacking.

The overall design looks dated and cluttered.

I don’t question on the functionality but it did required significant improvements, visually.

Example of design quality we are looking for:
http://themeforest.net/item/blessing-premium-responsive-wordpress-theme/3582013
http://themeforest.net/item/genesis-church-premium-responsive-wordpress-them/3083436
http://themeforest.net/item/churchope-responsive-wordpress-theme/2708562
http://themeforest.net/item/risen-church-wordpress-theme-responsive/2632774
http://themeforest.net/item/born-the-wordpress-theme-for-churches/803941

They also offer the similar functionality as you did. So, the second issue is, how to make your template to stand out from the rest.”

( I hope posting the other example themes from the reviewer’s comment here is OK … I left them in the comment because there’s clearly no criticism of any of them going on here and ultimately I didn’t think it would harm them in any way)

I am also wondering if anyone knows if the reviewer is implying anything in particular when they say “stand out from the rest”. I was thinking about improving on my style evaluator (on the left) to make the presentation a bit better, but that’s not part of the theme just the preview site. I was also thinking of adding another slider option like Nivo or something but other than that I’m not sure unless he meant adding more functionality, however this would confuse me slightly because he says he “doesn’t question the functionality”

Again any help appreciated particularly if it’s clear and understandable. Thank You. :-)

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byronyasgur says

If you have no experience of WordPress theme building then I’d advise you to build a quick bare bones theme without bootstrap first just so you can get a clue what is going on. Even if you were to play around with one of the blank themes for a couple of hours you’d find get the geography. http://speckyboy.com/2010/03/22/10-blanknaked-wordpress-themes-perfect-for-development/. Also you will probably get a lot out of http://codex.wordpress.org/Theme_Review especially if you plan on releasing it. Keep in mind that there is nearly always a “WordPress” way of doing things and it’s not necessarily the way you know. Eg enqueing stylesheets and scripts but there are plenty more examples..

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byronyasgur says

The Twitter Bootstrap 101 videos are pretty explanatory – http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA615C8C2E86B555E

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byronyasgur says

+1 on the centralised location. That’s the nub of it for me.

I just spend nearly 2 hours reading through the last year’s worth of material from the forum about the toolkit. I ended up coming to this post last for some reason … random. :-(

I would also like to throw the idea of a checklist into the ring. So the way I would see it would be a document, or documents listing and/or explaining whatever requirements reviewers wished … and within ( preferably at the top of ) this there would be a checklist of the basics required for submission.

I’m sure reviewers have better things to be doing than rejecting items that dont meet minimum specs, and a checklist would surely stop a lot of this, and save time for staff and authors all round.

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byronyasgur says

ah … sorry .. i suppose I’ll find the answer here http://themeforest.net/forums/thread/since-when/86948?page=5

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byronyasgur says

Is the wordpress toolkit library or plugin mandatory on Themeforest wordpress themes? Thanks.

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