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chrisatlemon says

Look what the cat dragged in:

http://graphicriver.net/forums/thread/real-people-in-projects/54134

This thread has some answers. It seems like I’m not the only one who noticed this … So I’m not crazy after all harhar! :)

I guess the main point is the following:

“The live preview of an item is a sort of gray area because it is hosted on authors’ servers, not Envato’s. If authors want to use stolen images in their live previews, that’s a risk they’re choosing to take, and one that is very difficult for us to moderate. However, that doesn’t mean that we won’t remove your live preview link should we find content in your live preview to be excessive (mature content, etc).”

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chrisatlemon says

If that were the case, I think we’d all be updating our thumbnails on an hourly basis, hehe :)

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chrisatlemon says

You’re right, pointing out the one item probably wasn’t a good thing to do … I wasn’t thinking straight :)

It doesn’t really affect me because I always use commercial use licence images and include those in the downloads. (I never like it when the file says “images not included”) And I don’t sell on Theme Forest (yet) :)

However I think it really is something that should be looked at. Because when I browsed a week ago for a theme I went through a huge amount of templates and a good percentage of those had either movie posters, video game screenshots, etc.

Now I think it’s a problem because designs today really are image-based. Most of these come with panoramic screen format sliders and galleries and the entire visual impact comes from the quality of the images included. So if you use top-quality movie posters or videogame screenshots which just look awesome you will have a competitive advantage over somebody just using their own photos or commercial use free stock.

on my items I usually spend many hours rousing free stock sites to find photos which have enough quality to give my designs a nice visual impact. Obviously some people out there take shortcuts :)

What struck me though is that it does not seem to happenhere on Graphic River. That’s why I was so surprised coming across all these items over on Theme Forest. And that’s why I was also sure there must be some other licensing involved, because I simply could not believe it to be happening at such scale…

Cheers

Chris

PS: please don’t read this as me criticising the reviewers or the quality of this marketplace. This is an awesome community/marketplace with top-notch items, I am simply a bit puzzled about this issue and try to illustrate why…

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chrisatlemon says

There are a huge amount of similar files already available on this marketplace. So if you want yours to get accepted it really has to be absolute top-notch quality. Yours looks okay, but it doesn’t look fantastic. In this category anything less than super awesome simply won’t get accepted.

I know, because I also had a file rejected in this category and I put in a huge amount of time and effort to get it up to scratch until it was finally accepted.

Cheers

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chrisatlemon says

I don’t know about most people, and I only do this in my spare time, but I never spend less than two weeks on an item. So if you post a new one here every day I don’t think you’re putting in the attention to detail that is needed to produce a top quality file on Graphic River.

The first thing you should address is all the blurriness. The entire middle part makes me think I forgot to put on my glasses. Try going for something crisp and clear. Blur is fine when used correctly, but not as the main element on a poster … At least not in the way presented here.

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chrisatlemon says

Huh, why did my post get removed? Was that because I linked to a file I purchased? My apologies if that is not allowed. I thought that linking to outside resources was forbidden, but Envato Items should be allowed if they are not mine?

I guess not! :) Sorry about that!

@Raincutter: That puzzles me though. That will mean that there is a huge variety of themes with clearly copyrighted imagery getting past the reviewers? I find that very strange! Surely there must be something else to it?

Cheers

Chris

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chrisatlemon says

Worry? I’m not worried at all! Lol :) I merely tried to convey why I think this logo got rejected based on the reviewer’s feedback.

The way I read it you didn’t agree with that feedback. So I just tried to give an illustrative example. Nothing more to it.

Forgive me if I sounded harsh or if I misunderstood you, that was not my intention. But believe me, the least of my worries is whether your logo gets accepted or not. Just trying to help :)

Having said that, I do think the idea and execution is nice, we see a lot worse here in the rejected items discussions. So good luck with the improvements and the next review.

Cheers

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chrisatlemon says

that is however besides the point. Are you trying to illustrate human nature or are you trying to sell a logo?

Think of it this way: two girls line up for a swimsuit contest. One beautiful and slim, the other ugly and fat. Who will win the contest?

Is the contest a true interpretation of human nature? No, it’s not. Neither should be your logo. At least if you want to get it accepted here or make a sale.

Nobody stops you from illustrating a pimply distorted teenagers face and trying to sell it as a logo. Simply you won’t get it accepted here… And to me, honestly, that makes perfect sense :)

Now everyone here has said that at first look the logo looked strange to them. If that’s the general impression most people have when first looking at it you can be sure that it will not be the most successful logo on this marketplace…

Cheers

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chrisatlemon says

I read it the same way as survivor. If you have a logo name like “magnifying glass” and you include a magnifying glass illustration somewhere in that name your local will only work for a company called “magnifying glass”. It will therefore not be flexible for use but other company names and therefore useless for any potential buyers if their company is not exactly called “magnifying glass”.

Does that make sense?

Cheers

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chrisatlemon says

They lack detail and quality. They are also very simple. They don’t even feel very Christmassy to me. They are just balls with a shape pasted on top.

Remember one of the purposes of this marketplace is to provide ready-made objects other designers can use. What you present here is something many designers can do in a few minutes.

They would need a lot more work. Look at the balls here:

http://graphicriver.net/item/red-and-golden-christmas-background/621627

Then see the difference in quality. And these are just part of a design not the entire item itself.

I hope that makes you see where the file would need to be improved.

Cheers

Chris

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