In my opinion envato is no different than shutterstock..
I have no control over pricing of my own items..
I prefer not to upload %90 of my files because envato makes it abysmally cheap..
name one other platform where content providers are made so estranged, to the point they don’t feel like uploading to that platform..
Pricing is the second most important thing for me after royalties and I have NO say about it..
Like it or not, you are a reseller envato.. I never felt otherwise..
If you are a platform, then behave like one and stop dictating your pricing on me..
Seriously guys, I love this site but never upload anything new for 4 reasons..
1- the vector upload process on GR is the worst in the industry.. and by far.. some sites had a faster process 7-8 years ago.. it’s a shame.. big big shame..
2- 30 keywords is just NOT working.. everywhere else it’s 50 keywords and our images have 50 tags embedded in the IPTC.. We are not going to spend time to delete 20 tags for every single image..
3- many people are uploading vectors to photodune in Jpeg format because upload process is more up to standards and less time consuming.. A LOT LESS..
4- vector pricing, as I brought up before, is abysmal.. the same vector that you priced at $3 could be uploaded to photodune in jpeg format and be priced at $9
considering all of the above, I am really surprised anybody is uploading vectors to graphicriver at all..
imagine what you are missing..
I never advertise graphicriver..
isn’t that the reason they get %67 of the sale price? to advertise and sell the content..
cidepix saidYou seem to be offended however the actions of that developer will hurt your sales as a result. Maybe take another minute to read my comments.
of course you are going to be a huge fan, because GR is one of the biggest “underpricers” of the industry.. you get what you pay for.. quality stuff won’t be uploaded here for peanuts..
not offended by your comments.. you are right about your concerns but graphicriver pricing policy and awful upload process stops legit people from uploading.. instead, you get those guys..
It’s been a looooong time since I uploaded anything to graphicriver because I am not willing to give away my stuff.. I prefer uploading to sites which properly value my work..
of course you are going to be a huge fan, because GR is one of the biggest “underpricers” of the industry..
you get what you pay for.. quality stuff won’t be uploaded here for peanuts..
is this issue forgotten?
do you guys really not want quality stuff uploaded to this site?
and not just the pricing.. awful upload process should be brought up to industry standards.. uploading vectors should be as easy as uploading photos..
- IPTC data should be extracted automatically
- industry standard 50 keywords should be allowed (people won’t waste time for GR alone)
- previews and thumbs should automatically be created by graphicriver, not by the artist
- so many more little details to make the process more industry standard
it’s a shame graphicriver is so behind the standards.. these are very easy features that will automate the process.. a site with solid audience should be better..
Added some characters recently,
Two simple character designs, on for $3 and one for $4 with two simple poses. Then next was 4 characters with 8 variations, plus 130 body parts, arms legs and clothes added for $6 was hoping for a little more.at the moment I was working on 50 pre-made characters 500 body elements and items to upload but not sure if it is worth it at the moment for the work involved. What are others thoughts about mascot packs?
well, it’s not worth uploading any items to graphicriver as it stands.. it’s just madness to give away our items for $3
I know the same item sells for $20 – $30 on some of my other agents.. giving it to graphicriver for $3 is shooting yourself in the foot.. hell even on my personal site I don’t give them away for $3..
as a non-exclusive illustrator, %33 of $3 is a joke.. items must at least be $12-15 for it to be worth uploading..
xstortionist saidAs I said earlier.. If you are only going to pay $2 to me, I’d rather you don’t buy it at all.. If the pricing is an issue, you should definitely create them yourself! You are actually not doing me a favor by buying it for $2-3, but rather killing my business..
I agree and disagree with some of your points here. I believe that there are many vector items that are under priced, but that’s exactly why I purchased them in the first placeFor example, there are many vector style icons on the site for $2 – $3 dollars that I purchase. I don’t believe these prices should be increased because many times the files come with 9 icons and I only really need 1… if the price was any higher then $5 I would just create my own icon and move on.
I have them available on some other sites for $30.. I’d rather sell it on that agency where I get %50 of $30, than %33 of $2.. That’s just silly.. That is the reason only %15 of my portfolio is here.. and as things stand I am not happy to keep that %15 here as well.. The only reason I just don’t withdraw my vectors is the effort I spent uploading here, and this is the site with the worst upload procedure out of 18 sites that I am submitting.. So imagine the effort!
Also: You are actually not doing “you” a favor too, because if the prices were fairer, you would have more vectors offered here.. I am not asking for $30, but it should start from $9 and go upwards.. Trust me there aren’t many people who can just create them themselves.. I am pretty sure I will still sell like hot cakes because that is what I do in those $30 agencies as well.. My experience proves my point.. My vectors are just given away here..
Edit: I just looked at your portfolio and I actually purchased your zodiac signs vector… but I only needed the bull one. Perhaps you should think about taking some of your vector packs and turning them into logos, that way you could have a bit more extra cash flow. This is just a suggestion of course!
I am planing to actually withdraw all my vectors if the price is not increased significantly.. Yes, turning some of them into logos has been in my mind for a while now, but I need time to do that.. I will definitely stop giving them away for peanuts if I don’t like the new pricing though..
I see you have good experience of being a buyer
Oh, I am way more experienced in buying than you think.. having a paw here doesn’t make you a better buyer than me.. remember envato is NOT the only place to buy..
I usually only buy photos for graphic design projects and this is not a place to buy for me, because photographers are paid only %33.. photodune community is heavily non-exclusive.. I prefer buying from sites which pay them %50 or more.. this is out of respect for image creators and myself as well..
I even use google to see if the artist has his/her own site, so that I can directly purchase from them to avoid paying the middle-man.. if they don’t have a site, then I prefer middle-men who pay them better..
obviously I don’t buy vectors because I can pretty much draw whatever I want..
and I don’t buy themes because I am good enough to edit a free wordpress theme into anything I want to transform..
quickandeasy saidcheck out my port to see many $2 vectors that you can’t do in half an hour.. just sort them by “price”, no need to place links.. in fact many people can’t create them even if given a month’s time..
So, would I pay $3+ for some squiggly lines I could draw myself? Yeah, of course, because it’d take me half an hour to do them myself.
Would I pay $45 for the privilege of using them in one project? No, I’ll fire open Illustrator and make my own.
please do! as I said before, I ‘d rather you do it yourself then by mine for peanuts..
quickandeasy said$45 is too reasonable.. it’s a shame that as a mod you don’t realize that you are not actually buying the “simple vector” but the EXTENDED LICENSE .. it’s not a simple thing.. gives you so much control over how you use the content and $45 is too cheap for what the license provides.. what’s next? you will want the copyright for $50?
However, if that $45 were more reasonably priced, I’d probably be more likely to weigh up the time cost of making them myself against a ready made item which I can already see would suit my project perfectly, and decide in favour of making a purchase.
quickandeasy saidof course! and what I say is also “imo”
Of course, this is all imo and doesn’t apply to all vector items.
quickandeasy saidif you are ok downloading illegal vectors, feel free to do it.. because most of the free stuff available for download is stolen content.. a small % is legally given away.. but this is very small compared to illegally distributed stuff..
And that’s without mentioning the huge expanse of free stuff available at the click of a button.