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clarecomm
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@collis, can you please answer my concerns here?

ultimate-wp,

This thread is scheduled to be locked shortly. I think you’ll find that many uncomfortable questions will remain unanswered, before being managed out of existence in a process that really started many, many months ago.

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I’m just a freelancer and gain very little here in graphicriver $ 20 to $ 60 a month. This does not allow me to pay for accounting support and do not have knowledge to handle this situation alone (it was for this that the Envato served) :crying: :crying:

And I’m thinking that leaving the “graphicriver” because of its new policy regarding the VAT issue. Where I was stabbed in the back. When I wrote me Graphicriver they earned 50% of the sale to deal with the whole issue related to accounting and others. Now continue to earn 50% of the value of sales, but want to spend the responsibility of the VAT to the author. I do not see this situation to be explained in a clear and transparent manner. I did not give permission to graphicriver to spend invoices / receipts in my name (using my real name). The Envato was wrong to decide to change its market position of s thought in their own interests and without thinking in your community (authors). :confusedsad: :confusedsad:

I feel I am not important to the Envato because it was treated (we counted) and my opinion does not matter to nothing. :crying: :crying:

I would like to apologize to my clients not to continue my work in Graphicriver. I hope you understand my reasons.

I wish my colleagues good luck and many community sales and everything goes as you wish.

I would like to ask for help to know how do I close my account. Just have to delete all items or have to cancel the account. How to do it? First I have to withdraw money and then cancel the account?

Sorry for my bad English :(

Goodbye. :crying: :crying: :crying:

Enna – stay for a few more days till Collis’ legal team answer these questions properly. Then make your decision.

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clarecomm
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Thank you for attention to our questions. We appreciate huge amount of work you’ve done here. This is incredible market place, participating in it changed my life, we just need some answers and clarifications. Thank you for your hard work, Collis.

Hi all, just a quick update from me that I haven’t managed to put together my completed answers to questions raised today. I spent a lot of the day taking calls with more authors around the world which was really helpful – though still lots more people to talk to. Tomorrow I’ll try to go back to forums/broadcast and try to use some of the insights I’ve gotten about what would be helpful!
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Bizarre, though, that Collis should opt for firefighting these issues now, rather than managing them strategically 12—or even 6—months ago.

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clarecomm
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Collis,

Have you forgotten your assertion of January 2013?:

“At the end of the day our marketplaces sell licenses to buyers to use the work created by our community of authors. The very thing we sell are the set of rights and permissions that buyers have.”

Oh yes. Well there is no chance that envato and collis will get rid of that marketplace type that they have created in those years. It always was envato who was the seller and always will be. I dont understand who are they trying to trick .. maybe themselfs.

You can find that statement here: http://torquemag.io/themeforest-wordcamps/

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Collis,

Have you forgotten your assertion of January 2013?:

“At the end of the day our marketplaces sell licenses to buyers to use the work created by our community of authors. The very thing we sell are the set of rights and permissions that buyers have.”

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Can you actually use a PO box address on an invoice? I thought it needed to be the registered location of the business for tax purposes.

Maybe I should set up office actually in a PO box.

Looks like I need some good old fashioned legal advice.

I sure am, using our corporate P.O Box. If my home address was listed on those invoices I would have been FURIOUS. This puts a lot of people in a dangerous position. A literal danger.

I will be looking into the legality of Envato issuing invoices on behalf of another corporation without it’s consent, as that is exactly what they are doing to us. This next chapter should be interesting.

It’s worth considering that an author doesn’t have to be earning millions to be ‘in danger’. They only have to be comparatively wealthy in their own country/district/village to attract unwelcome attention.

Tim – any help you can mobilize on behalf of the rest of us will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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...... that invoice is illegal in most UE countries because it doesn’t contain full details of an author….....
In SOME, not most EU countries. There are actually only a few where it’s not ok.
Problem solved, just need to wait for a few countries to change their laws. 8-)

If the EU doesn’t fall apart first :O

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Memo to Envato: Are you getting all this?

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In spite of how Envato are trying to spin it, for tax purposes under EU legislation they are still the seller: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/vat-supplying-digital-services-to-private-consumers/vat-businesses-supplying-digital-services-to-private-consumers

Perhaps someone can confirm if Australian law views Envato in a similar way?

Of course they are the seller, we don’t have to repeat that, everyone knows this, even envato does. But they have decided that this is the way they want to play this out: oops, sorry, no commission, used the wrong word here, haha!

Looking at old blog posts, support replies etc you will see that they refer to themselves as the seller several times. Oops, sorry, used the wrong word here, haha!

The question who is the seller is not as important as “how do we handle this now?”. (what I mean with not important is: the answers are clear and there is no doubt about it).

Some authors said they just (continue to) issue an invoice to envato every month for the money they withdrawed, and just ignore all the stupid illegal stuff (invoices) envato does. If that is the correct way, no idea.

The answer to “how do we handle this now?” is simple. Since Envato are the seller, they have no requirement to disclose your personal details on an invoice. So they cannot do that, especially if they have not sought your consent in the matter.

Besides all that…in what country of the world is it legal to issue an invoice in the name of another entity?

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+1: Full address and company details and some other “little things” are mandatory

I must have missed that. Where do Envato state that the supply of address details is mandatory?

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