Moar Trello boards!!
As I said earlier the engagement from you all has been phenomenal so far. I’d like to share with you the ideas we have had around the design of the global facets and the page-level design:
- https://trello.com/b/jclTlLf7/global-facet-wireframes this is the design of the global facets, the facets that will basically appear on all marketplaces
- https://trello.com/b/ZIna5Mqc/page-level-wireframes these wireframes don’t look at each individual facet. Instead they answer the question “where will all the facets sit on the page and how will the user interact with them across different devices?”
Comment away but please keep things relevant to the idea relevant to each type of wireframe. I’m adding all current Trello members as “organisational members” so you can add your cards without me having to invite you to each of these boards separately. I’ve set it up so that once someone is invited, they’ll automatically be able to contribute to all public boards. Just makes things a little easier for everyone involved.
Just to clarify, I’d love to see more buyers take part in this. The responses I’ve had so far in Trello have been really great. I was pleasantly surprised, to be honest. So authors, I’d like to ask you for your help. If you have a good relationship with some of your buyers, let them know about this project next time you’re in touch with them. Let them know that we need to hear their voice. We will also try to get in touch with some buyers as well on our end. Feel free to invite them to the Trello boards or they can send me their username and I’ll add them.
Question (which Envato probably won’t answer) you describe faceted search as:what’s faceted search? It’s fancy search-world lingo meaning being able to filter search results pages. The ability to filter by price, ratings, or sales range when searching.
Why do you leave out “time period” as a facet ? I explained previously that since I became a top seller on ActiveDen.. I still get sales on 7 year old redundant AS2 files to this day when over the years there have been newer, better AS3 files from other authors – but my old redundant stuff still sells because they have high sales. This is hard evidence that you need a “time period” in search. Why does Envato want to keep pushing old content on the market places, and refuse to add time period as part of the search, you’re not only showing buyers old content, you’re making it increasingly harder to sell new items.No matter what other facet you have… time period is the most important one to keep content relevant, fresh and competitive. I don’t make this stuff up, I’ve been here for 7 years, I know how the system works, and it’s totally flawed without having a time period in search – I wish Envato would look at real data and get serious, and stop guessing how it works, survey buyers and ask how easy it is to find stuff – all the answers are right there for you. Asking authors will always be biased if the system is a bit biased… so look at real data, ask the buyers what they want – they’re the ones using the search, and trying to discover content. I honestly can’t believe it has taken so many years of talking about the search, and we still at this point of asking authors what they think. ASK THE BUYERS who use this site every day browsing content, and see what their opinions and suggestions are, you might be surprised.
Who ever said that we’re not taking time facets into consideration? Did you even take a look at the Trello board? https://trello.com/c/yEFfW7oO/9-date-item-was-added
There’s nothing preventing buyers from being part in this. In fact, we have buyers on our focus group which we have Google Hangout meetings with every week.
It seems to me like you’re just frustrated and looking for any reason to nitpick our approach to this project.
As we are talking about how to make it easier for customers to find items, I’d like to link to this thread I started some months ago:http://videohive.net/forums/thread/request-category-filter-on-portfolio-pages/116375
Some dev recently told me that the portfolio page is technically a search result page. So it doesn’t fit in my head why we don’t have the category filter on a portfolio page, especially since some author’s portfolio has several hundred to thousand items.Now, as we are talking about adding facets to the search results page, I’d like to bring this up again and kindly ask everyone to not forget the portfolio pages. A category filter is a must here, some other facets would be very user-friendly, too.
So there’s two things here really 1) 2) You’d like to see this done as part of this project
1) You’d like to see the category facet being introduced on the Portfolio page with perhaps some other facets. I agree that this would be useful. I’ve read this suggestion on the forum and I’ve heard it brought up face-to-face in user interviews over Skype.
2) This kind of sits in a grey zone. It’s not a core part of this project but I can see how it’s related. I’d really like one of our developers to come in here and respond to it because no design work is needed to address this. It’s not something I would “fix” personally but I’ll bring it up in our next meeting and see what our devs say.
... I figured Collis has been back to the Marketplaces for a few weeks now, that might explain the sudden change.
Actually it was Michelle Robinson’s (search product manager) idea. I fell in love with it when I heard it and Collis didn’t waste any time giving us his support
With the current search you can filter by best match (from tags), sales, price, newest and rating….. the only thing that is missing is time scale. Since the marketplaces have been running for years now this is a necessity, so just add a secondary filter for upload time.
By default it will be on “All Time” only if the user chooses to select a time frame (we’re giving the buyer the freedom of choice here)... this is the most fair solution to minimize impact on top selling items uploaded years ago but at the same time help improve exposure to newer items.
Why not action something like this for a month and see what happens? It’s a simple solution to a complex problem.
There are many more facets needed than just “Date added”. We need to think about how all these facets will work in cohesion instead of just adding a quick-fix solution that we will regret later on because we didn’t look at the big picture.