yes the first reply did seem a little aggressively toned .. but i like the way you’ve replied .. greatly appreciate you clarifying things there ..
and just adding to my previous comment .. the word crap just doesn’t sit around nicely in a professional environment .. or maybe it’s just me .. i do understand that some of the work submitted may well be below the accepted standards but that doesn’t take away the fact that a person put in a lot of effort into it .. not everyone’s a pro-designer .. it comes with time .. some way back i’m sure we were all “crap” as you put it ..
Arik one humble suggestion .. calling someone’s effort “crap” especially when you’re an entity involved in promoting a business isn’t a good thing .. and i would like to respectfully disagree with this statement of yours:
“Envato isn’t important enough for there to be some kind of 3rd party investigation, Envato doesn’t manufacture cars that suddenly accelerate and kill people, it doesn’t create peanut butter with metal shards in it.”
When us developers are putting in hours n hours of work and effort, Envato does become very important for us .. i mean some developers rely on this for a living as i can look around and tell .. you can’t compare a totally different kind of business with likes of such a marketplace .. i get the point you’re making but you’re taking it a bit to the extreme .. which isn’t necessary .. this sort of marketplace can still have problems and issues as can anything in life .. and these problems can be of a significant value and concern .. so you can’t rule that out .. especially when us developers are putting in a lot and also giving away a fair share of the earnings to the marketplace for the services it provides us (and a part of those services include a responsible entity we can question in time of matters of concern) .. some of your choice of words show that you sort of took this discussion as an attack on all reviewers and are replying in anger .. it’s almost equivalent to how thomas was acting; while he’s on the other end of the table, his behavior is somewhat understandable/acceptable .. but you being a responsible entity, it doesn’t seem nice .. i mean i really like the way amanda replied with calm and utmost professionalism .. something to consider maybe? no offense intended ..
a good idea would be to have a marketplace for logos or print design stuff where these illustrations could go very well!
i agree .. i myself have found a few files in the wrong categories and have often pointed this out via support tickets .. reviewers should take note of the categories and maybe switch them at the time of review if they don’t best fit the ones the author put them in ..
alrite now this threads getting too personal .. lets all jus stop, taking a long breath and jus chill out lol ..
@thomas, the thing that you experienced, i went through the exact same thing, but i contacted support repeatedly, had my case elevated all the way to the site managers, and my issue was resolved in the end .. i know how frustrating it gets when things as such happen, especially when you put in so much time and effort into something .. but you have to hold your nerve and keep trying .. jus keep calm and give them proper justifications to your case in a professional manner .. when you have valid claims you’ll be heard surely ..
to add to all this i would like to say that most of the reviewers’ decisions have seemed somewhat conflicting at times in the past .. and i’ve witnessed that too .. something that envato really needs to work on .. like maybe chalk up some rules and guidelines, which aren’t just available to the reviewers but developers as well .. so we know what to work for and expect when we’re developing a product .. saves us all a lot of time and effort ..
i dont think it’s a bad thing that we’re discussing an issue like this .. if things as such come up, it just clarifies things or makes us think over an issue that’s possibly on most of our minds .. i don’t think it’s a bad thing that reviewers can see our files and be inspired by it to make one of their own .. it just helps the marketplace get better .. i mean we all do this at one point or the other .. as a designer we’re always learning new ways n techniques .. the same argument can be applied on us as well, we can easily download the “free file of the month”, view tutorials (as constantin said) etc. and do the same thing a reviewer, we’d think, would do .. so there are a certain things we got to accept i suppose ..
hollow has a point there n i would like to kind of agree with him there .. there can always be a possibility of some sort where things as such may happen .. i think reviewers should have a salary of some sort for reviewing files instead .. but then again they can simply make another account n sell stuff lol
@andrualex .. i think only developers have access to the database and reviewers have certain privileges ..
Thanks Hollowlchigo .. i’m aware of that and that’s what i was complaining about lol i guess i didn’t make myself clear enough .. nevermind i guess .. lol
as a developer i think it does seem kind of unfair that the share we get is off the $1 and not the $3 per sale .. i mean i’m not arguing the price tag put up on items but how the developer gets so less when the item sells at discounted price :\