We just found it. And it gives a perfect answer for our question. It is not allowed to promote ‘buy one get something free’ as Envato has made it clear via KindDog. Still how come the such advertisements to be alive (even at this moment when we type, the ad is present there) on themeforest? Really disappointed.
[Though our points are clarified, we don’t see any immediate action being taken on this subject here, so leaving the topic]
Guys please note, our point was not about how many demo pages they have nor how many plugins they bundle. But how they advertise it, that may cause misunderstanding for buyers thinking that if they buy a theme they get premium plugins bundled free with the theme. Is it allowed to advertise like that?
We think it should not be advertised like that. Instead, it should be something like “this theme features the value added plugins X and Y and Z” and not like “buy this theme and you get plugin X, Y, Z free as bundle”
This needs to be clarified by Envato because we have more themes to be released soon here and it can be also advertised as ‘free plugins bundled’ too. Common sense, if someone does it here, and if it is allowed, why can’t everyone?? simple business. Not any kittens
No offense!But Is this kind of ‘promotions’ allowed on themeforest? Staff response is much appreciated. If so, everybody can bundle 10+ premium plugins from CodeCanyon and bundle it for just 45 USD WP theme. Yeah, let the ordinary themes with similar price suck big time.
- Ironically said. This is not cool as it may cause confusion / misunderstanding in buyers’ view.
When thinking from Buyers’ view of this advertsiement, they are actually ‘buying’ the plugin as it is provided free with this what-so-called ‘bundle’, but they are actually getting a plugin as a ‘featured inclusion’ within the theme, not a product itself (that is, the end-users will not get any of these plugins as a separate product within the ‘bundle’ but they can use the plugins as included in this particular theme).
Aren’t we speaking right? Please correct if not, we like to get some clarification regarding this.
Wow! Same here with a withdrawal requested via PayPal. This is actually an ‘automated withdrawal’ but has not been processed yet. We have opened a support ticket to Envato (with screenshots): Ticket ID 60481. If anyone from the staff can check this, it will be kind support. Thank you.
QuanticaLabs saidI wouldn’t really care for the 280 when I made 1000 sales/month. Not to mention these are money that doesn’t belong to us (authors) at all. Not part of the item’s price and should probably/eventually cover the LOSS for envato caused by paypal fees.
From what I understand it does make a difference for authors. Citing from collis:The handling fee is a change to author earnings, because previously it was split with the author in the same way that the item’s sale was. So let’s say you were a 50-50 author, and you sold a $10 item, but with a $2 handling fee – you would have received $5 + $1. That second part will no longer happen.Assuming you are an elite author and earn 75% of every sale, you sold 1000 items a month and every fifth sale has been increased by $2 handling fee. It’s $280 additional income, or, rather was
+1. It is Envato’s money, they deserve it. No complaints.
Haha If things were like that, Envato would’ve been gone for years. From what i saw Envato always encouraged good and valuable feedback but on the right tone. They do want the best for this marketplace and these are all changes for the general growth and continuous expansion, the fact we don’t agree with some changes is not that relevant, nobody’s forcing us to stay here and i for once have concerns of my own – like how do i go into space
I must admit I’m so fascinated to find out if whoever makes it to $25m first has the stomach to actually go to space Although it was my idea, I’d be terrified... also I don’t think Cyan would let me go anyway!!
What if a team won the power elite++ ‘space tour’ prestige We are 11 in the team. LOL.
Importantly for authors, as of today this fee (handling fee) will be purely from Envato to the buyer (so authors will derive no revenue from it). It’s very disappointing
Hi, there is nothing to be worried about this handling fees. Envato does handles all the payment system and this extra processed handling fee amount should be credited to Envato, not to authors. True and fair We see no problem with that, it is Envato’s money and they deserve it.
ChapterThemes, you’re welcome!
I think you got the original post a bit wrong. The OP hasn’t stated at any point that he’s looking to integrate a TF available product (even if his own) in their new CMS. They only wish to adapt a concept that has been publish on their account on TF to a new CMS. Also, they do not plan to bundle this new CMS theme with the CMS itself (even if they would, it would be perfectly legit). Have a read:We will not be selling any HTML5 templates / WordPress themes (exactly as it is available on themeforest) as part of this new CMS but we will sell it’s own version of themes dedicated to this CMS system only.
So, the lay down is: their own CMS is just another CMS. The fact that it’s not included in TF’s list of available CMS templates changes nothing and as they OWN the intellectual property rights to their initial concept can create countless versions of different CMS themes based on that concept and sell them wherever they see fit, as long as they don’t sell the same versions they offer on TF.
Yes, QBKL said it correctly, this is exactly our case. We will be creating a closed system (a new CMS we will have as our own) and we will convert our designs to themes for that CMS. That’s it.
This vacation testing show up they don’t understand their authors and what they are here.
They think authors are willing to force labour based on replies from people who think they can sell updates for their items through Envato network.Off course this is not possible and if you think this is the plan you will have a big surprise in December.
Yes, it will be a very big big surprise in December
tommusrhodus saidConclusion: Yes, (limited) support and lifetime updates (fixes to ensure item working) should be mandatory. Otherwise it’s too risky to buy a theme that is not in the TOP 5.
I’d love to hear more buyers opinions on this also.
Hi blitzgeek, What do you mean by ‘(limited) support’? If you kindly explain what you expect on that? If you can give some more details (related to this active discussion – when support is made mandatory as per this thread’s topic) that will be a great help for we authors.
EDIT: We are also a buyer, just 1 item to count for our next level on ‘collector’ badge. But our experience with all who sold items for us are very good. We like to know your experience (just as Hogash pointed in the above given post)