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digitalscience
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X-Theme just found a new way to sell their items, and clearly it works. Let’s not make it sound like getting bulk orders is easy and opens things up to ‘gaming the system’, because it actually takes business know how, and faith in your product to get someone to buy 1000 copies. If it was easy to do this, then we should all be out there trying to make these deals.

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Competition isn’t always gradual. Especially in this case where someone is making a bulk purchase. Are you opposed to bulk purchases? Are you opposed to large bulk purchases?
I already said i have nothing against bulk sales, what i’m against to are those figures affecting the popular list.

What if i’d offer my clients a discount would they accept to pay my freelance services with multiple bulk purchases ? Would that make my items more popular ? No, it would just artificially increase their ranking in the the popular page which isn’t the same thing in my book.

Envato should stop this now.

So in your mind a bulk sale is ok, but not when they affect popular page positions? Right.

A bulk order is just a large amount of sales in one go, but individual sales nevertheless, going to individual people who obtain individual licences. These aren’t artificial sales – they were all paid for. If an author gets a large order, then they deserve that sales count, regardless if they’re on the popular page or not. A sale is a sale.

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It’s only gaming the system if the author funded the bulk purchase. In my opinion, if you can find a company who wants to buy 2000 copies of your theme legitimately – then you deserve that sales count, because that’s not an easy task. Right now some of you guys are making a lot of assumptions based on nothing, I’m pretty sure Envato would’ve checked this deal thoroughly before going ahead.

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Imho, that’s not really the point here. Bulk purchases per se are totally fine but whether or not they should affect the popular figures is open to discussion. To me, selling 1k license to a single costumer (for whatever reason), isn’t the same as selling to 1k different TF buyers.

It’s pretty much the same – the licences are transferred to each attendee – they own the licence – the only difference is someone else paid for it on their behalf. But in the end, licences were all paid for and users received them legitimately within Envato’s rules. But now that the volume was too big and it knocked a top theme to #2 is now a morality issue? This is a marketplace, we are here to make sales – as long as it’s in the rules, then it’s fair game.

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What makes more sense is to buy licences as you need them, unless you can predict the future or have money to throw away.

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@ren_ben So you’re saying two business can’t work together to grow their businesses? And the fact they know each other is a problem ? It’s called a business partnership. X Theme is just thinking bigger here, and making good business decisions – so as long as it’s in the rules, then what’s the issue?

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Look guys, it’s not like they’re buying their own files here… an online tutoring company approached them and wanted to buy a large amount of licences for a seminar, and then they purchased another round of licences as they needed them.

What were they suppose to have said, tell them “No not interested – that would be unfair to my competition” ?? come on, get real. Nothing unfair about, 100% legitimate as Envato has already stated. It’s called good business and making the right kind of partnerships to promote / sell your products.

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Same as pre-planning an advertising campaign, and spending half your budget week one, and half week two. Either way all that is happening is an author is doing some marketing, and a customer is buying . Does it really matter how many and when sales are happening?

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A sale is a sale, if they can attract more bulk sales, then they’re doing things right. Its not unfair, or a sneaky tactic.. if they get more bulk sales, then good for them! Anyways something big had to happen to compete with Avada, so people become inventive – as long as it’s in the rules, then what’s the problem? Avada has only dropped 8% since X themes bulk sales.. so in the scheme of things, it’s not really a huge hit, and also goes to show how strong Avada really is.

Looks you are not getting it at all.

A bulk sale splitting into weeks. This was one bulk sale split into weeks. Aren’t you following the thread?

A sale is a sale, so it doesn’t matter when it happens.. if their customer decided to buy some licences last week and some licences this week, that’s their decision and nothing unfair about it.

I know what you’re thinking though, that their timing for purchasing was tactical to get an extended lead on the popular page… but I think you’re over thinking this. It’s just the way it happened – maybe they needed more licences for the seminar ? People rather buy too little, than too many.

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Well that’s to be expected, there’s several popular page links throughout the site so alot of clicks are funneled towards the popular page, and of course whoever is #1 is most likely going to get clicked on over everything else, so X theme got clicked on more and Avada less.
Who can ensure that they will not do a bulk sale this week?

A sale is a sale, if they can attract more bulk sales, then they’re doing things right. Its not unfair, or a sneaky tactic.. if they get more bulk sales, then good for them! Anyways something big had to happen to compete with Avada, so people become inventive – as long as it’s in the rules, then what’s the problem? Avada has only dropped 8% since X themes bulk sales.. so in the scheme of things, it’s not really a huge hit, and also goes to show how strong Avada really is.

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