Then I guess this discussion is simply not directed at you. We’re not talking about multi-purpose themes – and Avada has been out since 2012. There’s plenty of generic stuff on the market. Lobo, which you also mention, is a niche theme, and a good one at that (it’s been one of the few we bought in the past year). But the density of quality purpose-built themes has gone down, and I’m sure there’s other developers here who are interested in what people, who basically stopped buying, can’t find anymore.
Well, if you could see the meaning of this question without going hurr durr:
So how many copies of Avada / X have you bought?
If you didn’t, then there are 150,000 more who did.
It’s what the buyers want.Make a best-seller or die tryin. – 50 Flame
I have, literally, no idea what you’re trying to say.
We’ve created PixProof exactly after some of our (photographers) clients asked for this kind of functionality. Sadly none of the authors around, use it on their themes – instead they bloat them with all kind of sliders and ‘multi-purpose’ features. Unfortunately this happens with many other similar plugins, targeted for niches.
Thanks for joining the discussion, George!
I had actually asked the developer of a fairly good-looking photo theme if they could integrate your plugin, and they said they liked the idea and that it’s on their to-do list, but that never materialised and eventually they abandoned their theme altogether. And that’s kind of the thing: developers don’t expect to sell 1,000 licences anymore, which makes long support pointless, but then again that’s what outstanding themes used to sell.
Really like your plugin and hope it will be picked up by other devs in the future. Which to some degree is what my thread is about, hoping that developers will take a broader look at available plugins that make sense rather than what the last group did that made a theme on a particular subject.
@greenline (much agree with you comment) and @PremiumLayers:
To me, the general problem appears to be that devs spend way too much time integrating functionality that we have seen a hundred times and still don’t need. At Themeforest, you always had to buy 3 themes until you had a usable one, because the first was flawed, the second drop their updating efforts too quickly, then you find something even better – but no, that third thing doesn’t really happen anymore at this point.
What does a company in a specific area need? A lawyer doesn’t need a slideshow, but something better looking than a basic blog. The contact details (a copy-friendly, but not linked-up email, a nicely displayed office address, but no map) are actually the most important thing and something that shouldn’t come at the end of it all. The space where you’re supposed to learn what the company or individual does for a living is what could distinguish one good site from another good one, yet there’s hardly any difference in how developers and designers use it. This basic information bit could have such a variety of options, long as it sticks to the practical premise that no-one will keep reading for longer than 1:30 mins.
Vets’ and doctors’ sites are cluttered with stock pictures and slideshows, but one image would be enough if the rest looks neat. That may be the other basic question: what are people looking for if they go on somebody’s website. A photo gallery? Hardly.
Booking functionality for restaurants, hotels and appointments is nice, but if it can’t fit in with a proper booking system outside WP, it’s better to leave it out entirely and give visitors the opportunity to find the phone number they’re looking for quicker than they do now.
Right now, we seem to get a choice between cluttered sites and ones that are too simple and dull. If just a little more thought went into what the interest of the one running the site and the one visiting it really is, there could be much more interesting results. In other words: don’t put everything that’s available in the mix, but rather reduce it to something that is a good start and add one or two really useful bits – because that’s what we’re looking for.
Thank you for all that information! You have in mind – backgrounds that are not images? Because there is always some cropping when viewed on different screen sizes.
No, fullscreen slideshows don’t work with photography. They work if you’re promoting a hotel. Photography would need a monochrome background (in slideshow mode, for instance) and to display the maximum size possible without cropping the picture.
* only one theme that I looked at in the past year came with an idea for a proofing page. One. The rest are essentially portfolio blogs that have no special benefits for photographers.
Can you clarify what you mean by this?
A proofing page is a password protected segment of the site, where a photographer can upload pictures for a specific client who can then download the ones he needs. There are existing plugins for this, PixProof for instance, which is even free, but devs who create sites for photographers hardly ever bother with making such essential functionality compatible with their site.
If a photographer comes to us and wants us to improve his or her brand, they’re not novices or hobby photographers. They usually work for an agency already but want to expand on getting booked for weddings and other events on the side, mostly locally. So as for their websites, their needs are simple: a quick, good looking overview without too much clutter (and god forbid no horizontal sliding, etc), easy access to their contact details and a tool that gives them a technical advantage to competitors who fiddle with Dropbox and the likes when dealing with clients.
And in terms of the image format: you won’t find many pictures that match your browser window’s layout. So a no-frills gallery background that looks good with square formats, portrait formats and any type of landscape is vital. You can’t crop a photographer’s work, because its purpose isn’t a decorative one. Most photography themes I’ve seen in recent months only seem to want to make the theme look good (which is understandable, but doesn’t fit the purpose).
Many thanks for you interest!
Hi Gohero, Thanks for your input and suggestions. Could you please e-mail me at email@example.com with more detailed information on the domains of interest (niches) and some examples so we could have better idea on what you’re looking for? We could use this information for our upcoming themes and it would be beneficial for both parties I believe.
Will do, thank you!
Well there is always the item request forum http://themeforest.net/forums/topic/item-requests/51
Well, this isn’t a request for a specific item. It’s a general comment on seeing the same ingredients over and over again, which wasn’t the case a year ago.