Posts by jonathan01

2583 posts Bird is the word..
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jonathan01
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There is absolutely a benefit in being #1 – therefore there is absolutely a benefit in reaching that target by spending 30% of a discounted bulk rate – it’s absolutely a viable and affordable marketing plan. You don’t have to be #1 to see benefits either, so the ‘investment’ doesn’t need to be thousands of copies. Just a well organized plan will receive a good return on investment.

2583 posts Bird is the word..
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jonathan01
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2583 posts Bird is the word..
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jonathan01
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@rdavenport the theme wouldn’t be approved here if the WP DEFAULT import wouldn’t work.

I may be wrong here but I’m pretty sure that the review process does not actually use the demo content or setup of plugins – purely testing of the theme code for WP standards and import of the test data to display all widgets, sticky posts etc.

2583 posts Bird is the word..
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jonathan01
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This means: import as usual with the WP importer

If an author decides to provide demo content with a theme, it should work.

You can’t argue with this :)

2583 posts Bird is the word..
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jonathan01
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jonathan01, you make a good point. I’m aware that not everybody is “starting from scratch”, and may be just swapping to a different theme.

I think if the authors where clear with their language and clearly explained that one option will completely overwrite the website, and one will simply change the theme, then things would be ok.

Absolutely, unfortunately more options = more chances of mistakes. It’s a tricky one for sure. Thanks for your input tho mate.

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jonathan01
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@ jonathan01: One-click install feature should never erase anything from the database. I don’t even think that a theme that does this would be accepted today on Themeforest.

I can assure you they are available, and can do this – these are real-world experiences reported to me from authors and installers from Envato Studio.

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jonathan01
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I just want to throw something in the mix here as I spoke to several authors this week with regards to one-click demo and implementing in our own themes.

It seems that many reported issues with buyers who don’t fully understand what they are doing due to a lack of experience and doing a one click install has been known to completely remove peoples old posts and pages and they were not aware of this and caused major issues – some from this stopped doing it and reverted back to the default WordPress recommended method of an XML import. Food for thought, as we must understand not every buyer is well experienced and we have to take this in to account.

Offering both options was something I brought up, but was again possibly a bad idea as now it becomes more confusing with multiple options.

Would love to here what people think as we are still studying if this is a good way forward for us and our users or not.

2583 posts Bird is the word..
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jonathan01
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All I understand from this “bulk purchase” issue is that the Popular items page is considered very important for success on this marketplace.
So that means that the marketplace is kind of broken. Popular items shouldn’t be a key to a theme success, as demonstrated with a lot of great themes that are nowhere near the popular items page.
PIP (popular items page) has the same themes for months in row , and those themes are not the reflection of the current marketplace condition.
Apple store has the same problem, and there are a lot of developers that are stopping developing for IOS because they can’t get their foot in the door. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9390665
So yes, bulk purchases are easy way to get some exposure, in it can be shady business.
So I propose to eliminate the “popular files page” completely, and break it down to categories.
Global Envato sales won’t be affected , but the distribution of income will be more evenly spread.

It’s not broken it’s by design. The whole site, regardless of entry point, is geared towards top sellers and best selling items. That’s the sales funnel for the marketplace. Having bulk sales count as individual sales distorts these figures and opens up the opportunity for gaming the system quite easily and with the assistance of Envato to boot. I have zero issues with bulk sales, that’s just awesome for the author, I have a problem with artificially inflating sales figures which are based on individual sales.

2583 posts Bird is the word..
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jonathan01
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Greetings – this is a general forum and support for Avada is supplied through their support center available here:

https://theme-fusion.com/support/
2583 posts Bird is the word..
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  • Elite Author: Sold more than $75,000 on Envato Market
  • Has sold $500,000+ on Envato Market
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jonathan01
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I’m realizing that the difference between the NYT Bestseller list and Billboard restricting bulk sales from their lists and Envato doing the same is that the NYT and Billboard do not actually benefit in any way from any bulk sales, which is why it’s easier for them to put restrictions on it. Envato has a monetary stake in encouraging as many bulk sales as possible, which is a huge conflict of interest in keeping the top sales list organic. This is going to be a pretty telling moral decision by Envato in whether they want to keep the list pure or encourage authors to find backend (and untraceable) ways to climb to the top.

And right there is the beauty of the marketplace model. You earn from every possible direction. Whether you want to treat the platform as a level playing field for all users, is a moral and longterm strategy.

I’ll say it again, what I have been saying for years, it’s their house and their rules. Unfortunately all the items and authors are the ones responsible for creating such a dominant player, now we have to deal with it unfortunately.

Hopefully more people can now see why I have for years complained about the obvious sales funnel to popular items, which people have attacked me for, that is now working out just sweet for the site owners as a huge amount of total rev. comes from the top 5-10 items per marketplace.

Envato are a business, they are here to earn money, the sooner everyone realizes this, the less of a shock all these moves and changes become to everyone, and the more you understand how carefully crafted many moves and changes are. Not always immediately apparent but eventually you start to realize, it wasn’t all good, but was a well calculated strategic move – again they are a business and this is what they are * supposed * to do.

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