I just got an email to say this thread had started up again… and a bunch of others. Kindly stop.
So I decided to purchase Tunesat, firstly when I logged in since my trial had expired it said there were 3 detections, once I paid and looked I actually only had one. So I emailed support and they apologized and are giving me next month for free, nice! Anyway, since going ‘pro’ on Tunesat I have had 2 detections for TV, the first on a NBC Sports programme and the second on a BBC2 Newsnight feature for an Oscar nominated documentary called ‘The Square’ about the uprising in Egypt, which is available on Netflix – Cool!
Is it worth it? well with 2 detections no, buts its nice to see where my stuff is starting to get used, I’ll keep it for a couple of months and then stop as it does not hold any massive need for me unless it was PRO material. For me its really just an Ego boost and a way of seeing if my work is being used commercially.
So this is a topic discussed quite a bit online, and its one that has a huge amount of variables.
Recently I was approached and asked ‘How much would it cost for you to compose an original score for a 60min documentary which will be broadcast on US television?’
Right away I did some research into the company and while it could be considered to be a indie film I knew they had money due to the content I found online about them.
Ive always wondered what I should charge, a while back I charged $8,000.00 for what was a package (composed, mixed, mastered) and was for 12 episodes each around 8mins long, with a total of around 6 mins of music per episode.
Composers write at different speeds, and it depends on content. I find on average I write around 2mins of music per 8 hour day. So 12 (episodes) X 6 (mins of music per episode) = 72mins of music. At 2mins per 8 hours it works out at 288 hours or 36 days. Now this varies, I may do 10mins one day if I get a sudden creative run, others much less.
So my previous job of $8000.00 divided by 288 hours works out at $27.77 an hour ($220 a day). Nowhere as near as it should have been (remember I was mixing and mastering the work too!) but it was my first real paid job so its a learning curve.
So with this new jobs rather than give them a rough total cost, I have said it would be between 8-12% of the total budget of the film. I will wait to see what they come back with but with but I am interested in seeing what some of you guys have experienced.
Now I wont write for anything less than $400 a day (8 hours)
Yep, I used the trial and got nothing, I kept getting emails from Tunesat saying they would give me 25% off, I thought Id log in again and take a look and there were 3 TV detections, however I could not see them as my trial had expired, so I took the plunge out of curiosity and paid for 10 fingerprints across all countries and web.
When I then logged in I only had 1 detection, not sure whats going on so I have raised a ticket with them to investigate. Additionally I have no web detections which I find odd as the music that is on Tunesat has been used in various videos online which have a combined view count of 50 Million+ across all popular video sites, again I have raised a ticket about this.
Ill update in the new year with more information!
So as I am sure you are all aware, its the season of discounted samples!
I managed to hold off on buying Damage and just got it now, for $149, I also purchased Galaxy Instruments Giant Piano via NI..
For any of you buying Damage, Evolve, Mutations, Aeon – Anything from Heavyocity – Do it from the Heavyocity website and NOT NI. If you do it via NI they change the price to euros, if you do it via Heavyocity it stays in dollars, and there is quite a difference in price with the currency conversion.
Its been a good day! New samples, and the misses just bought me a PS4 and a new Z1 Phone, haha looks like im not going to get any of my postgrad research done!
Anyway, post up what you have bought!
Native Instruments – 50% off Heavyocity – 50% off 8Dio – Upto 40% off
Action Strike sounds good, well polished etc but I would wait for a festive period where you get money off, I have SD2 (I didn’t sell it in the end!), 8Dios Epic Dhol and Drums of War 1 & 2 and I would be no better off with Action Strike.
Again HZ Percussion is being released in stages at £399 a pop, so maybe they will release a bundle mid next year, and if they are all £399 then maybe it will be discounted to £799 for the bundle, but also remember Spitfire Audio are TAX (20%) exclusive, so there is another fair whack going onto that.
I also think what people have said earlier about the size it right, you are getting a lot for your money but a large part will be surround content, I would be interested to see how much a composer would use as their ‘go to’ samples and how much becomes redundant.
I am sure it will sound amazing, but I have started to take a new outlook on composing, using what I have and layering it, twisting it, making it my own sound.
So for me my next step is to get Damage, then sit back and watch it all play out. I am also in the position where over the years I have bought Kontakt, Giant, Evolve Mutations 1 & 2 all separate so I kind grudge buying the Komplete bundles now. Ill need to wait till Komplete 12+ is out before I consider it
Yep I will be waiting for a promotion!
Thanks JB, yeah I think Damage is suited more too me, however I think until the discounts start to roll out from NI during Xmas im going to make some sessions up and just layer up the drums I have, twist them etc and make them huge and bounce them out as my own personal signature ‘impacts’.
Yeah I have my eye on Spitfires HZ pack, its due this month and I actually just messaged them on their Facebook page to see if they were still on track for a November release.
Interesting about the NI sneak peak but it just sounds like the stuff you get from Drums of War, traditional drums.
I think I will hold out till December and see what there is, we all know about the sales