Just a few observations, from my point of view. (A designer who has learned to code)
Firstly, if you think a ‘design’ is just a PSD , you really are mistaken.
My design process includes: target research, content / site priorities and wireframes. Also factor in the extra work for a responsive design (My theme Focus, I had to wireframe 7 different layouts). Then there is finding the right typefaces, icon sets, colour scheme, working on the contrast etc.
Once this is all completed, I can then start working on the PSD .
You seem to be under the impression you think a designer just opens up Photoshop and creates a site design.
A ‘design’ is never just a one-time job. Even for my own themes, I still have to design new things for features that are requested.
As a coder, I appreciate what your saying about bugs / issues etc. This happens, but if the code is clean and tested properly, it should never take too much to resolve.
I would also point out that ‘compatibility’ issues should be resolved before any code goes live.
With this in mind a ‘50 / 50’ split is more than fair. I really think you should try and spend some time with a good designer, and watch just how painstaking our lives can be. As mentioned before, your code won’t shift a thing unless the design is appealing.
Regarding charges, I am around £150 – £200 per day. A homepage can take me between 7 – 10 hours to design, maybe 5 to code. That is just one page.
I really want to leave this on a positive note. Don’t let arrogance ruin what you could be. There are people here giving you free advice, if I was your age again I would listen to it.
What do you actually want to do? Are you just here to make money, or do you have passion for what you do?
Anyone can learn to design and code. But it takes passion, heart, natural talent and drive to become really good at either.
Anyway, I don’t wan’t to go more offtopic than it is now. The thing is that I’m sensitive at words like “talent” when it comes to a designer versus a coder. Both have talent if they are good at it. Talent is not only a designer’s attribute… because both activities require a great deal of work to get experience in the field. The inspiration “idea” was there to point out that both activities work in similar ways.
What he said. Basically you need to respect both design and development processes. As a developer you need a designer, and vice versa.
If you don’t have respect for what goes into making a design, your gonna struggle to find a designer who wants to work with you. From the sounds of the original post, it seems that is what is lacking.
Please don’t under value designers or developers, or even the lucky hybrids!
Because let’s face it, coding is way more difficult than designing.
Your not going to win many friends with that attitude. Please don’t be so naive.
Congrats my man! Big things, big things!
Thanks for the replies fellas.
Seems WP is the way to go… Feels strange being a Tumblr author, but hey!
I am just wondering how you folks handle your Theme Forest customers signing up to your own private support forums?
I noticed a few saying sign up with a private key, but I am unsure how to get this data from Themeforest and using it as a required key for the sign up process.
Any advice would be appreciated.
kailoon saidSublime Text 2 rules – in my opinion of course;)
I move from Textmate – Coda – Sublime Text 2. Period.
+1 for Sublime. Its a well versed editor, that is always updated, easy to customise, and works on both mac / win / linux.
I kinda feel like Coda 2 is a little late to the party. Most the features (Excluding air preview) are already available in most other editors.
Kinda odd to hear friends saying they were buying Coda 2, before even trying it.