Posts by mtrue321

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Hi mtrue321,

You need to understand that a vast majority of Drupal authors aren’t designing their themes—they’re simply converting already existing templates which were originally released in the WordPress or HTML categories. Most of these authors are front-end developers, not designers or even Drupal developers for that matter. ;)

As a result, you’re not going to see much unique work… all of the functionality and design elements have already been decided by the original author of the HTML or WP version.

I totally hear you and agree with your assessment, but as long as Envato keeps approving these generic conversions and buyers keep buying them, I don’t see much changing. :( In my opinion, conversions should not automatically be approved anymore, and Envato should start enforcing Drupal coding standards as well.

Hi themeboutique,

Yeah, good point. While I knew that most of the Drupal themes on TF do start out as being an HTML or WP design/theme, I didn’t really think about it when creating this post. However, I do still feel the same – whether it’s the Drupal authors that need to start contributing to the designs of the themes they’re releasing or the designers getting this message, in whatever platform they’re designing for.

And I also agree with your assessment of the lack of Drupal coding standards. Some of the Drupal themes I’ve purchased definitely do not follow those standards and yes, Envator needs to hire a Drupal expert to field these themes and ensure that a better product is being pushed out.

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Being a long time buyer of Drupal themes on here, I really want to send a message to the great themers of the (themeforest) world… Why, oh why can’t we break out of this same layout that every single new theme follows??

Almost every theme follows the typical: Top slider -> bootstrap CTA blocks -> About us -> Portfolio -> Team -> Testimonials -> Clients -> more bootstrap tricks -> Footer

I’ve posted before asking this and still wonder – why are most all the Drupal themes aimed at agencies?? Why are there not better, more creative designs/layouts being themed for the industries that the agencies are actually building sites for? Agencies are not building sites for agencies… Drupal developers are not building sites for agencies – we’re building sites for clients!

Sliders are over-used and in the corp/enterprise world – a thing of the past. Yes bootstrap is wonderful, we don’t need 1000 themes that show how differently each themer can spin a little twist on css to make their bootstrap-based theme look a tiny bit different from the next guy’s.

We need to see more industry specific themes. We need to see more creative designs that challenge the typical layout that almost every theme follows.

I can’t be alone in the opinion… We have some great themers on here and some great designers too – challenge yourselves to bring something new and fresh to the Drupal themes in here… Getting tired of buying themes that all look pretty much the same.

We need bar/restaurant specific themes, we need more/better real estate themes, we need medical and lawyer related themes, we need better corporate themes, we need music and entertainment related themes… Break the mold of the “agency” themes with the same layout!

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Anyone who says their isn’t a market for Drupal themes is misinformed. As the OP mentioned, Drupal has more capabilities than any other CMS—and to be honest, it’s not even close.

The problem is that the Drupal category on ThemeForest has no development standards, and as a result, we see a lot of low quality products coming from low quality developers. This is why these themes don’t sell, it has nothing to do with Drupal. Customers here want themes that are easy to use and customize, they expect a hassle free experience. Can you really blame them for going with WP themes instead?

When we start seeing authors release products that are developed specifically for Drupal, instead of half-ass*d conversions of HTML or WP themes which rely on a mess of shortcodes and modules, the doubters here will see that Drupal (as a CMS) was never the issue.
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I think you’re missing my point. My post was not “can someone please make more Drupal themes?”. The fact is, there are themers out there making Drupal themes and that is not going to change and your “data” (IMO) is totally skewed.

My post was about – if you’re going to be a Drupal themer, how about pushing some new/interesting designs rather than the constant regurgitation of the same exact layout??

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> Creative Agencies make up for a lot of the traffic from what I read / see, or well, a good part of buyers are exactly that.
> Niche themes’ target is obviously smaller, especially on Drupal which…is it even worth it to make Drupal themes?
> Obviously, there’s your answer. No money

And usually “niche themes” require “better design”, because it now doesn’t need to appeal to everyone. In theory and practice (judging by Drupal sales), it’s just not feasible to do it.

Not feasible to make quality/unique Drupal themes… That sounds like a comment from a die-hard WP themer. Drupal is the #1 open source framework (of it’s level of capabilities) with millions of sites and a massive community, a comment like “it’s not feasible to make Drupal themes”, makes me even more disappointed…
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I read another post about how a (wordpress) theme designer’s latest theme was rejected because of “over saturation” of the type of design he submitted. Is Envato watching the Drupal category? Almost all of the Drupal themes coming out for the last 6-8 months have all been exactly the same.

I have been looking to TF exclusively for my Drupal theme needs, for a long time now, but now I am starting to look elsewhere for some variety. TF desperately needs some originality and niche offerings when it comes to the Drupal themes being sold. We’re getting tired of the same old (creative-related) themes, with the exact same layouts and only differing in slight styling and imagery.

A plea to the Drupal designers: Stop designing all your themes for creative agencies! We need themes for our clients’ industries, not our own!

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First let me say that all the theme designers on here are awesome, I only wish that all the Drupal themes coming out weren’t almost exactly the same, with the exception of a handful of unique and niche themes.

I can pull up 10 themes right now that are almost carbon copies of each other, just slight tweaking in CSS.

I have to believe that there is much more creativity within the TF author community than what is coming out for Drupal themes. Why aren’t more unique themes coming out and why aren’t more industry niche themes coming out? It seems like every theme author is designing their themes for the “creative” industry.

I love TF and have made many purchases here, I only hope to see more creative differentiation start to happen.

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It is crazy how many themes exist for creative types, like web design companies… With theme focuses on portfolios and “our recent work”, etc. Why aren’t more themes developed for industries that us developers need to build sites for?

It’s even crazier that as awesome as Drupal is, that there are almost NO themes on here for nightclubs/bars and restaurants.

That being said… I have purchased several themes on here, from some really great theme developers. I would love to see some of you guys put up some really great themes for the Food & Beverage industries! They need sites and we need your bad-ass themes!!

So how about it? Which “elite author” is going to get some wicked themes up for nigthclubs and restaurants???

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