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musicant says

with this approach, you can buy for $ 20 a lot of projects. Motivated by the fact that he bought not what wanted. These reversal sale is becoming more and more.

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musicant says

bank and credit card companies should support the damage. is not envato fault or the authors if banks don’t protect their clients account properly.

since envato doesn’t process payment themselves they should not be found responsible for this fraud events.

envato doesn’t have access to credit card numbers or information about the owners of those credit cards, authors doesn’t have access either. I can’t verify if the client is genuine either.

is a shame envato chose to drop the damage on author head when they should stand up and protect their authors against banks.

those credit cards are insured. Not only the banks get the money back from the authors but also get the money from insurance companies. :(
Totally agree!
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musicant says

well, before the sale reversals were introduced, envato has paid all of these losses on their own, protecting the authors. They lose money as well as we do, why should they pay us even 1% when we all get ripped off?
..protecting the authors? In what way?
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musicant says

that’s wrong. read what a sale reversal is: http://audiojungle.net/forums/thread/update-dealing-with-reversed-purchases-/96939

thanks for the info! But I still do not agree with that 100% return fee. at least to the author as moral damages leave 20-30%. The author is not protected.

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musicant says

Someone bought my projects, Envato then returned the money to the buyer. The buyer has the project and money. Is that fair? then our projects there for free download. Recently, it is very often…

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musicant says

Are you serious? Recently very often the Sale reversal. Why you do not protect authors?

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musicant says



Ok but I agree with the overall market prices, maybe they should be increased. to see a pro level logo for 8 dollars…. that a fu*kin cup of coffee!!!!..... at least make it a hamburger?

That’s actually my point in general… prices are too low.

There are various mechanisms by which the prices take a steady downwards trend. Inflation is one, the glass price ceiling is another, and inter-author competition is yet another. Competition in itself is no bad thing. In a free market, the idea is that price is self-regulating, but in the modern internet age, we need to look carefully at the many situations where that has gone too far: The music industry, newspapers, and even photography, to name but a few.

On Videohive, our striving to raise the quality bar over the last few years has been fun and fantastic for the buyer, but since it has been met not with a commensurate price rise, but a real-terms price fall; it almost certainly represents a more difficult position for the author, who has to work harder for the same revenue. You’d probably argue that this is evened out through the increased sales volume that lower prices “cause”, but that would be pure assumption. The fact is that we are simply not privvy to that information and have no idea how pricing affects sales volume. Comparing Apple and Amstrad should be proof enough that the relationship is not a simple one. :-)

Envato itself is obviously aware of the problem of over-competitiveness (also known as price-dumping). That’s why people are not allowed to advertise give-aways on the forum, and presumably the reason why prices are set centrally, and that Elite authors are no longer allowed to set their own prices. I guess Envato fears that authors, if left to their own devices, would chase the prices down to zero. I fear they’d be about right. Good for Envato that they don’t want to be a platform for this.

But the fact is that the market here is not a completely free-market. We rely on Envato to set our prices centrally and fairly, and to protect us from price-dumping. Central intervention in otherwise free markets often leads to contradictory situations, and this central price-setting is clearly leading to situations where things don’t quite add up. If the audio track example isn’t clear enough, consider a project that includes 20 3D models (trust me – this is on its way with CS7) and we see how very quickly it starts undermining the pricing on 3DO to quite a radical degree.

I don’t blame you for wanting to make your files more competitive, nor is there any compulsory obligation to the group. But I maintain, that it is only with some level of solidarity that a group exercises any leverage at all.

That’s why I think that including an audio track in a file should be met with a small price rise.
I normally never discuss about prices.
But I will do it now. ;)
IMHO right now VH lead the market of the AE projects
More quality and variety as been asked from VH.
They had it.
In the current AE Project files market I don t think VH will lose buyers for and 2/5 usd increase.
To stay on topic, buyers have a great advantage if they have the sound included.
Peace, :)
Arthur

No advantage when sound is included! This is verified!

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musicant says



You can certainly open a ticket and make your case :)
I do not quite understand what you mean ))
Sorry, maybe I misunderstood the question :) I was suggesting that if you thought the price of your future projects needed a price increase due to the higher cost of audio, you could always make a note to the reviewer when you submit the item.
You understand my question correctly! Thanks for the tip!
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musicant says

You can certainly open a ticket and make your case :)

I do not quite understand what you mean ))

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musicant says

Videohive reviewers have different skills. They don’t need to review musical side details besides general impression. As well as VH reviewer don’t call AJ reviewer for opinion. That is why its free addition. :-) Best regards Andrey
I’m not talking about the footage and photos I’m talking about the music video projects. What are free add-ons? Why should a person buy the track for $ 17 if he could buy project with music for 15. Logical?
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